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Re:MDN Plus by cnasc on Thursday March 24, 2022 @01:58PM (#30793341)
Does Mozilla pay their software developers an industry-standard TC?
Re:MDN Plus by pc86 on Thursday March 24, 2022 @02:08PM (#30793456)
It looks like Mozilla's average SDE salary is about $120k, so yes.

The national median software developer salary is something like $110k. The middle 50% range is like $85-150k, so if you're making above 150k TC you're already in the top 1/4 of developers, who are already very high up in general.

I say this because people on HN love to pretend that "industry-standard" means $250k+ for new grads and $400k for experienced ICs when that's just not true. FAANG-level salaries (which can absolutely be 300, 400, 500k TC) are the 1% of the 1%.

Re:MDN Plus by cnasc on Thursday March 24, 2022 @02:38PM (#30793751)
I don’t think it’s unreasonable to compare the take-home-pay of a Google engineer working on Chrome to that of a Mozilla engineer working on Firefox. That’s a good peer comparison to make.

It is definitely unreasonable to compare a Mozilla engineer’s pay to an average brought down by body-shop CRUD operations. They’re really not the same industry.

Re:MDN Plus by justapassenger on Thursday March 24, 2022 @03:20PM (#30794235)
> FAANG-level salaries (which can absolutely be 300, 400, 500k TC) are the 1% of the 1%.

Mozilla is going against FAANG products like Chrome. Compared to the competition their salaries are tiny.

Re:MDN Plus by comp_throw7 on Friday March 25, 2022 @02:25AM (#30799215)
> FAANG-level salaries (which can absolutely be 300, 400, 500k TC) are the 1% of the 1%.

FAANG & companies that pay similarly employ something like 8-10% of the engineers in the country, so this is an enormous overexaggeration. We can quibble about whether it's reasonable to represent that as "industry standard" or not, but it's not such a drastic outlier that it becomes unreasonable to use it as a point of reference when discussing things that might be reasonable to aim for (or expect, in certain contexts).

Re:MDN Plus by sciurus on Thursday March 24, 2022 @05:05PM (#30795331)
> It looks like Mozilla's average SDE salary is about $120k, so yes.

I'm not sure where you're getting that number, but it's much too low.

The figures at https://www.levels.fyi/company/Mozilla/salaries/Software-Eng... better match what I saw when I worked at Mozilla.

You can compare compensation at equivalent levels for Mozilla and peer companies at https://www.levels.fyi/?compare=Mozilla,Microsoft,Apple,Goog... . You'll see that Mozilla pays well, but significantly less than them.

Re:MDN Plus by sendilkumarn on Thursday March 24, 2022 @02:42PM (#30793798)
That definitely feels a bit low. Is this considering only US or worldwide?
Re:MDN Plus by pc86 on Thursday March 24, 2022 @05:03PM (#30795316)
It's the US median salary. If you're outside of SV and NYC, as a new grad you're looking at $60-70k, with no bonus and no stock (because outside of tech 99% of companies don't give their employees stock until they're at the director/VP level).
Re:MDN Plus by flyingfences on Thursday March 24, 2022 @03:03PM (#30794058)
Outside of SV/NYC, that's not low at all.