Java 18 / JDK 18: General Availability

Re:Java 18 / JDK 18: General Availability by igouy on Thursday March 24, 2022 @11:28AM (#30791238)

> relative to C

Seemed like you'd shifted your comparison to "almost every managed language."

So Java at-the-time compared to Smalltalk and Lisp at-the-time.

I suppose Haskell at-the-time, OCaml at-the-time :-)

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Re:Java 18 / JDK 18: General Availability by munificent on Thursday March 24, 2022 @05:31PM (#30795575)

I did say "almost every" and not "every". :)

Were there fast managed languages? Yes, a couple.

Were there fast managed object-oriented languages? Yes, Self and a Smalltalk or two.

Were there fast managed statically typed languages? Yes, SML and Haskell.

Where there fast, managed, statically typed, and object-oriented languages? Not many. Maybe Eiffel, but that was shackled by DbC dogmatism and probably some amount of Eurocentricity. I don't think Ada had GC back then and if your complaint is that Java is too verbose, you sure as heck aren't gonna like Ada.

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