> they’re obviously not productive members of society because of their religion?

As shocking as it might sound, yes.

Well when there are still workers in Israel because of them you can come back and apologize for claiming they weren’t being productive.

It’s laughable to claim that people producing literal other people aren’t being productive.

Again over half of Haredi men choose to live off state handouts. Their women are anyways treated as second class citizens. If this remains the case, with their increasing numbers they will need more handouts which paid for by the rest of the population. It's not hard to see why this isn't sustainable.

TFR amongst secular Jewish women in Israel is 2.5. That's comfortably above the replacement level.

no, they're not productive because they live off of goverment handouts. ANYBODY who takes more than they give is unproductive. Middleschoolers are unproductive, incarcerated felons are unproductive, people living off government grants are unproductive

How much government money does it take to get another human being?

A woman who has a child is infinitely more productive than you are giving her credit for.