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Re:Our fundamental right to shame and shun the New York Times by krageon on Thursday March 24, 2022 @04:59AM (#30787553)
> I just don't know how you can say things like this when professional environments like Activision-Blizzard exist

You don't agree people should leave Activision-Blizzard? I'm not convinced all the drama actually improved the company, though it was probably very satisfying to see for some folks.

> I do NOT want that at work, and I think I am entitled to [...]

That's a valid feeling, but nobody else is obliged to give that to you. You find a company that works for you, or you adapt to the one that you want to work for you. You don't go to war with the culture of a company just because something you feel entitled to isn't yet there.

> I guarantee you I can offend and get a bad reaction out of anyone who says "anything goes."

Yes, and there's nothing wrong with bad reactions. I literally said "you talk about it, rib back or leave". If you are incapable of solving your issues that way and find some sort of middle ground when someone really feels you stepped over the line, I think you have some growing up to do. That said, I recognise it doesn't mesh with a lot of folks' feelings on the matter and that's fine. I can live with that. I hope you can too.

I think it's reasonable to have conversations like these at work. Just like you can have them anywhere else. If conversations about it are had and you have thoughts on whether or not they should be had, you should be heard. Then the other party is free to do with that what they want. That's how life works.

Re:Our fundamental right to shame and shun the New York Times by BolexNOLA on Thursday March 24, 2022 @12:27PM (#30792112)
>That's a valid feeling, but nobody else is obliged to give that to you. You find a company that works for you, or you adapt to the one that you want to work for you. You don't go to war with the culture of a company just because something you feel entitled to isn't yet there.

No, I am entitled to that. I am there to do a job, not put up with someone's ravings about politics or whatever. I am forced into a space with them 40+ hours a week, my choice to remove myself from their presence has been taken way from me.

It is the company's responsibility to not foster a hostile work environment or one where people are constantly uncomfortable. If I have a colleague constantly going off on political rants and/or interacting with me in a different (unprofessional) manner at work it is the company's problem as well.

Re:Our fundamental right to shame and shun the New York Times by krageon on Friday March 25, 2022 @06:42AM (#30800513)
> [...] it is the company's problem as well.

Respectfully, I think with these paragraphs you've established that in this situation it's primarily your problem. The environment was there before you came around and clearly it worked well enough to keep things afloat, so unless you are the one person on earth with the skills you have it is not the company's problem.

Re:Our fundamental right to shame and shun the New York Times by BolexNOLA on Friday March 25, 2022 @10:17AM (#30802445)
Respectfully, it is primarily the company’s problem by law.

https://www.techrepublic.com/article/hostile-work-environmen...

Re:Our fundamental right to shame and shun the New York Times by krageon on Monday March 28, 2022 @03:30AM (#30828059)
Laws only matter when they are enforced, and these ones are clearly not.