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Re:Mercedes to accept legal responsibility for a vehicle whe... by kube-system on Tuesday March 22, 2022 @11:19AM (#30767142)
“FSD” and “Autopilot” are both SAE level 2 systems, which by definition, never take over driving responsibility from the driver.

They may have the worlds best driver assist features, but they have yet to produce a product that drives itself in any capacity.

https://www.motorweek.org/images/SAE_Chart.png

Re:Mercedes to accept legal responsibility for a vehicle whe... by judge2020 on Tuesday March 22, 2022 @11:41AM (#30767448)
SAE is good for classification but not for evaluating performance. By definition autosteer isn't "driving", but it does effectively drive for you at the level you'd expect, and it can take you 300 miles on a highway without disengagements and the $12k package can even overtake cars slower than you.
Re:Mercedes to accept legal responsibility for a vehicle whe... by kube-system on Tuesday March 22, 2022 @11:45AM (#30767495)
You’re only looking at one metric of “performance”: the number of conditions it operates in.

The SAE is looking at a different performance hurdle between levels 2 and 3: reliability.

Re:Mercedes to accept legal responsibility for a vehicle whe... by judge2020 on Tuesday March 22, 2022 @11:49AM (#30767545)
That's my point. Mercedes might be able to operate unsupervised on a some predefined map of highways while under a set of conditions and at a certain speed, but that doesn't mean it's a good product that solves real problems if it can't take over driving unsupervised on a regular road trip where you're driving 70+mph.