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Re:I think US college education is nearer to collapsing than... by skybrian on Sunday March 20, 2022 @09:04PM (#30748806)
Rather than saying "the SAT is discriminatory," maybe ask which questions on the SAT's are discriminatory, and why? And how could you fix them? This will be more revealing of what the problem might be.

I believe a lot of problems that the SAT's used to have were fixed over the years? It's somewhat of a moving target.

And if you can't make any standardized test that's fair, why is that?

Re:I think US college education is nearer to collapsing than... by crackercrews on Sunday March 20, 2022 @10:18PM (#30749312)
A prominent researcher noted that the following question was tested by the ETS but never made it onto the SAT:

The actor's bearing on stage seemed ______; her movements were natural and her technique _____

A. unremitting...blasé B. fluid...tentative C. unstudied...contrived D. eclectic...uniform E. grandiose...controlled

Apparently 8% more black students answered this question correctly than white students, and it was never moved from a potential question into the real test. The allegation is that the racial outcome of the question is the cause of its never making it onto the SAT.

I think it never made it because the question is bad. None of the answers makes much sense (the correct answer is apparently C).

1: http://www.jayrosner.com/publication-onwhitepreferences.html

Re:I think US college education is nearer to collapsing than... by mrjangles on Sunday March 20, 2022 @11:18PM (#30749834)
That made no sense so I followed your link and found that C is uncontrived not contrived, which then makes perfect sense.

Every option has either 2 words that make no sense, or one word that makes no sense with "her movements were natural" and one that does. Only option C has two words which make sense with both. This question is just basic English comprehension and should be on every exam.

Re:I think US college education is nearer to collapsing than... by crackercrews on Sunday March 20, 2022 @11:34PM (#30749909)
Sorry, I had seen this elsewhere and it was incorrectly transcribed. You are correct that the linked page shows "uncontrived" for C. That makes the question less bad though still a bit stilted.
Re:I think US college education is nearer to collapsing than... by wolverine876 on Monday March 21, 2022 @12:16AM (#30750194)
To be clear, the thesis of the article you quoted from is the following:

Every single question carefully preselected to appear on the test favors whites over blacks.

Re:I think US college education is nearer to collapsing than... by throwuxiytayq on Monday March 21, 2022 @08:28AM (#30753271)
As a non-American, this thesis simply doesn't pass the smell test unless you guys are living in literal KKK land, which - from be outside - doesn't seem to be the case.
Re:I think US college education is nearer to collapsing than... by wolverine876 on Monday March 21, 2022 @05:43PM (#30760091)
Why not read the research? A 'smell test', especially by someone with no experience or expertise, doesn't indicate much.

Any claim of racism - even raised by an expert who has done detailed research, in a society with overwhelming evidence of it historically and now, and in higher education admissions in particular - is always dismissed.