Windows needs a change in priorities

Re:Windows needs a change in priorities by smackeyacky on Sunday March 20, 2022 @09:03PM (#30748801)

I don't think that's true anymore. Gnome with two tweaks (put the min/max buttons back on the window header and move the main menu to the bottom of the screen so it works like the old win 10 task bar) and it's streets ahead of Windows 11. It's a great blessing in disguise when Microsoft decide your old laptop won't support Windows 11.

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Re:Windows needs a change in priorities by dehrmann on Monday March 21, 2022 @12:53PM (#30756468)

The article mentioned all the UI generations you can find in Windows. Linux is even worse. Once you leave the menus your desktop environment provides, it becomes a design free for all. Sometimes you'll see UI styles from another environment (run Kompare in Gnome), sometimes you get ancient X UIs.

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Re:Windows needs a change in priorities by schmuelio on Monday March 21, 2022 @09:21PM (#30761814)

I get your point and I'd raise you the suite of Microsoft products:

- Word, PowerPoint, Excel, all one style - Teams, different style - Notepad, different style - Paint, different style

That's just within the MS ecosystem, leave that ecosystem and you rapidly find the same style mess that you get on Linux. It's basically due to the many different GUI frameworks, not the OS itself, hell MS supplies a whole list of frameworks that look different from each other.

Even MacOS/iOS which are _really_ good at having a cohesive UI style suffer from this problem.

I'd argue that if this is a valid complaint with Linux DEs (be it GNOME/KDE/what have you) then it's an equally valid complaint for Windows.

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Re:Windows needs a change in priorities by goosedragons on Monday March 21, 2022 @07:30PM (#30761067)

If GNOME bundled Kompare or other KDE programs you might have a point. You wouldn't blame Apple for the look of LibreOffice on macOS so why blame GNOME for the non-GNOME programs?

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Re:Windows needs a change in priorities by CRConrad on Thursday March 31, 2022 @07:50PM (#30873595)

The GP wasn't blaming Gnome, they were complaining about the Linux GUI desktop in general. Running a KDE app on Gnome was just an example; they could just as well have mentioned the opposite and still not be "complaining about KDE ".

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Re:Windows needs a change in priorities by GekkePrutser on Sunday March 20, 2022 @11:29PM (#30749881)

Gnome has very excessive window borders though. They're so big they seem to be sized for touch, very wasteful when you don't have a touchscreen.

And it has even less configurability than Windows.. Add-ons don't count because they often break.

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Re:Windows needs a change in priorities by smackeyacky on Sunday March 20, 2022 @11:36PM (#30749922)

I don't mind the big borders, although most of the time I'm using dual 2k screens.

The borders don't seem that much bigger than the ones in Windows 10. As for the extensions, I've been enabling those via extensions.gnome.org and have no problems so far on Buster or Bullseye.

This is the one that makes Gnome useable for me:

https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1160/dash-to-panel/

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Re:Windows needs a change in priorities by lproven on Monday March 21, 2022 @01:43PM (#30757300)

Dash-to-panel helps, but it doesn't go far enough for me. It doesn't work well in vertical orientations: for instance, status icons should be arranged in horizontal rows. In a single column they take up far too much space.

Cinnamon suffers from the same problem, FWIW.

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Re:Windows needs a change in priorities by bobbylarrybobby on Sunday March 20, 2022 @11:53PM (#30750033)

Wait, is streets ahead a real saying? I thought Pierce on Community invented it.

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Re:Windows needs a change in priorities by Doctor_Fegg on Monday March 21, 2022 @04:06AM (#30751505)

Very common in British English.

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Re:Windows needs a change in priorities by smackeyacky on Monday March 21, 2022 @12:04AM (#30750112)

Dunno - I never watched community but I can't remember where I picked it up. Might be a commonwealth thing.

edit: google says "british". In fairly common use in Australia.

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Re:Windows needs a change in priorities by groovy2shoes on Monday March 21, 2022 @05:56PM (#30760228)

If you have to ask, you're streets behind.

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