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Re:I think US college education is nearer to collapsing than... by Ekaros on Sunday March 20, 2022 @06:47PM (#30747553)
From my viewpoint in Europe I never understood the whole extracurricular, hobby or even the essay or recommendation letter part of admission process. All of those felt like nothing to do with actual capability to study. If SAT is a bad idea, replace it with field specific national entrance exam.

Other fun alternatives, just outright auction off certain number of admission slots. Or just award slots randomly to all applicants.

Re:I think US college education is nearer to collapsing than... by umanwizard on Sunday March 20, 2022 @07:44PM (#30748035)
> From my viewpoint in Europe I never understood the whole extracurricular, hobby or even the essay or recommendation letter part of admission process.

First, a meta-point about questions like “why doesn’t the US have policy X Y or Z”: The US is essentially set up to be ungovernable by design (any meaningful reform requires the cooperation of both major political parties, a situation that doesn’t exist anywhere else in the developed world), you can’t really find rational reasons for most policies.

I notice this a lot, actually: the fundamental thing Europeans miss about the US is they think “a rule exists, thus it must be there on purpose”, because in your countries, unlike in the US, you have functioning parliaments and governments that can change laws as necessary.

Anyway, the US arrived at its education system, as with most things, through a long and largely random process. The catalyst for the weird non-academic admissions standards in particular is well-documented to have been pure anti-Semitism: college administrators felt that with purely academic admissions standards, too many Jews were being admitted.

Re:I think US college education is nearer to collapsing than... by mercutio2 on Monday March 21, 2022 @11:11AM (#30754984)
The United States does not use the European system of forcing kids to choose an area of study when they apply. Kids can, and do, study whatever they want, and change their majors at will.

So a field specific exam doesn’t really work.

And, besides that, would be opposed by the exact same people opposing the SAT.

Re:I think US college education is nearer to collapsing than... by hotpotamus on Sunday March 20, 2022 @08:05PM (#30748238)
Yep, the New York marathon has way more applicants than slots, so they in fact use a mix of some of the mechanisms you mention. I think Nepal should do the same for Everest climbers - auction off half the slots and randomly award the other half.