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Re:Go 1.18 by throwaway894345 on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @06:52PM (#30693003)
> All three of these things are subjective.

Not really. They aren’t formally defined, but there’s pretty wide consensus even among Go detractors about these qualities.

> At some sufficiently large number of people, you need to acknowledge that how they think isn't wrong, the language is.

Not when there are plenty of people willing to think differently and reap the benefits.

Re:Go 1.18 by mcronce on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @08:09PM (#30693631)
> there’s pretty wide consensus even among Go detractors about these qualities

[citation needed]

> there are plenty of people willing to think differently and reap the benefits

"Reap the benefits" is, again, subjective. It's something you like, not something objectively beneficial or worth the trade-offs in all, most, or even necessarily many projects.

This is precisely the unduly arrogant attitude amongst Gophers that others have already mentioned several times in this thread.

Re:Go 1.18 by throwaway894345 on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @08:41PM (#30693856)
You’re welcome to disbelieve me on the consensus. I’m not trying to persuade you of anything.

> "Reap the benefits" is, again, subjective. It's something you like, not something objectively beneficial or worth the trade-offs in all, most, or even necessarily many projects.

Of course, productivity isn’t for everyone. Sometimes for personal projects I’ll opt for things that exercise my creativity and cleverness over the purely productive or pragmatic.

> This is precisely the unduly arrogant attitude amongst Gophers that others have already mentioned several times in this thread.

Hah! This made me laugh. Yes, I disagree with you therefore I must be arrogant. (:

Re:Go 1.18 by mcronce on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @08:49PM (#30693918)
lol...you even take criticism arrogantly. Impressive. It wasn't a personal attack, it was a statement of fact, but thanks for making my point even more clearly for me - not only in your response to that, but in your assertion that your opinion based on your experience is fact. Appreciated.

Restated: You aren't arrogant because you disagree with me. You're arrogant because the things you say and the way you say them are arrogant.

Re:Go 1.18 by throwaway894345 on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @10:10PM (#30694469)
Look, I’m not interested in a slapfight. Enjoy your evening.