CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach torture techniques

Re:CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach ... by monocasa on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @04:15PM (#30690950)

Literally our entire justice system is built on the idea that the only ethical option is that victims and families of victims don't decide the flow of our justice process, and in fact require anyone who is too close to the victims to recuse themselves.

Turning it around, how would you like if the police tortured your child in a case of mistaken identity? Looking at the members of my high school class who became cops, they weren't exactly known for being the brightest bulbs in the box, but always acted with confidence despite that.

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Re:CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach ... by dragonwriter on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @04:18PM (#30690982)

> Literally our entire justice system is built on the idea that the only ethical option is that victims and families of victims don't decide the flow of our justice process

No, it's not, and the divergence between reality and this description is increasing, essentially monotonically, over time, with legal incorporation of “victim’s rights” into the criminal justice process.

That's not to say it shouldn't be as you describe, just that it isn't.

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Re:CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach ... by monocasa on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @04:23PM (#30691070)

Victims rights stop at the boundaries of the rights of the accused. They boil down to being explicitly notified of changes of public information like court dates and release dates, the ability to be present for public proceedings, and reaffirming their protection from the accused WRT instruments like restraining orders.

https://www.justice.gov/usao/resources/crime-victims-rights-...

They don't extend to the decision making process for others' investigations and prosecutions.

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