CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach torture techniques

Re:CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach ... by belorn on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @12:44PM (#30687531)

If you know with certainty that the person knows the location of the bomb then you also know where the bomb is located.

It the same issue when the police and prosecutor know all facts with certainty. At this point you don't need a court, a judge or a jury. In an artificial system where everything is know with perfect certainty you don't even need police and prosecutors, just a method to punish the guilty. A legal system is only needed in order to determine who is guilty and who isn't, and this is unnecessary if we know already who is guilty.

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Re:CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach ... by nicholasnorris on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @01:33PM (#30688264)

You know, a lot of times, people think they know things with absolute certainty, but then it turns out that they don't.

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Re:CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach ... by ALittleLight on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @12:46PM (#30687567)

Would you torture a person if you were 90% sure they knew about the dirty bomb?

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Re:CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach ... by belorn on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @01:05PM (#30687859)

How would you know its 90% certainty? Even attempting to measuring certainty has an uncertainty factor in it.

We know with some uncertainty the murder rate each year, and from this we have some measurable number that a person might be murdered. But we also know that murders tend to occur in non-random ways. At what murder rate should we start to arrest people at random?

They are fun thoughts experiments, but as guides for real life they work about as good as extreme simulations which removes mass, gravity and air friction.

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