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Re:Cities should not pay for new stadiums by ericmay on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @10:47AM (#30685985)
Great comment.

One of the things you mentioned was opportunity cost. I wonder if cities such as Columbus or other similarly sized cities actually lack opportunities and so they always latch on to projects like these? Are there intangible benefits to having an NFL stadium that aren't realized in economic cost-benefit analysis? For example, while Columbus is similarly sized to Cleveland and Cincinnati, if you watch the news or weather channel they always choose to show both of those cities instead of Columbus, the capitol (I know the likely reason is just makes more sense to display both of those). Or if I travel I always have to say Columbus, Ohio instead of just Columbus. Not the case with Cincinnati or Cleveland. Is that because the name of those two cities is so unique, or because we don't have an NFL team to get name recognition? Does that affect investment opportunities when companies are considering locating an office? Are we not front of mind because of that? I don't know either way, but I also wonder how this could be measured and if it provides any economic value.

Re:Cities should not pay for new stadiums by alistairSH on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @11:24AM (#30686458)
I haven't seen any recent studies/reports about building in small markets vs large markets. I suspect the small markets end up even worse off with such deals. The stadiums are massively expensive, regardless of location, and the smaller cities would be less able to absorb/offset the impacts of those costs.

Maybe not apples to apples, but DC's annual operating budget is ~$17b vs Columbus's annual budget of $1b. This despite DC having a smaller population (~700k vs ~900k).

Re:Cities should not pay for new stadiums by ericmay on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @12:09PM (#30687084)
Yea. I think Columbus is unique too because Ohio State football is probably bigger than either of the NFL teams from a market perspective in Ohio so it's sensible that nobody is adding an NFL team here.

Also I think the Columbus population comparison isn't great (omg we're the 15th biggest city !11!) because the city has annexed places that really don't make a lot of sense. Metro population is better to use for a comparison. And then I think for D.C. in particular you have the federal government located there so it's probably just "different".

Indianapolis has a budget of around $1.3 billion [1], Columbus is $1.04 billion [2], and Cleveland has a budget of around $1.8 bn [3]

[1] https://www.indy.gov/activity/city-and-county-budget [2] https://www.columbus.gov/finance/financial-management-group/... [3] https://www.cleveland.com/news/2022/02/mayor-bibbs-2022-budg....