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Re:Uber funds new lobbying group to deny rights for gig workers by JKCalhoun on Saturday March 12, 2022 @10:20AM (#30651944)
There was a time when employers were happy to offer health care, pensions, and other enticements to get workers.

It's an "employers' market" now as we are competing with the poorest nations on earth — a race to the bottom.

Nice for shareholders I guess?

People turn to their tax-paid, elected government for the things that Capitalism decides not to provide.

Re:Uber funds new lobbying group to deny rights for gig workers by richbell on Saturday March 12, 2022 @10:25AM (#30651982)
> It's an "employers' market" now as we are competing with the poorest nations on earth — a race to the bottom.

Ironically, many poorer nations have more affordable Healthcare than the United States. There's a whole "medical tourism" industry built around people from the US going to other countries for basic procedures and medication.

Re:Uber funds new lobbying group to deny rights for gig workers by bpodgursky on Saturday March 12, 2022 @10:42AM (#30652099)
Healthcare was only ever offered as a perk because employers could pay for it pre-tax instead of post tax, but individual employees could not do the same with their own money.

That was always stupid and didn't make sense, it's not because the labor/employment relationship used to be different.

Re:Uber funds new lobbying group to deny rights for gig workers by bogomipz on Saturday March 12, 2022 @11:26AM (#30652448)
>"Healthcare was only ever offered as a perk because employers could pay for it pre-tax instead of post tax, but individual employees could not do the same with their own money."

This is completely false. Employer-based healthcare was a consequence of World War 2. The US Congress passed 1942 Stabilization Act in order to combat inflation. As a result of this legislation employers could not compete for workers using wages alone. Employers then began to offer health benefits a perk and since that perk was not compensation it was not taxed. This fact is actually well-documented.[1][2]. It was offered in lieu of compensation and pre-tax vs post-tax status had nothing to do with the birth of this.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabilization_Act_of_1942

[2] https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/commentary/ct-obamaca...