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Re:Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian s... by coeneedell on Friday March 11, 2022 @09:22AM (#30640217)
Are you trying to say that there's something inherent to the Jewish population that they're less likely to marry a non-Jewish person than a Muslim is to marry a non-Muslim?
Re:Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian s... by scott_s on Friday March 11, 2022 @09:29AM (#30640334)
No. They're saying that a Jewish Israeli citizen is less likely to marry a Palestinian than a Muslim Israeli citizen. And given public statements from the lawmakers advocating for this law, they agree.
Re:Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian s... by ricardobeat on Friday March 11, 2022 @09:27AM (#30640313)
An arab israeli is very likely to marry an arab from Palestine. I'm guessing a number close to zero Israeli Jews are looking to marry an arab from Palestine (religion, hate, etc).
Re:Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian s... by hutzlibu on Friday March 11, 2022 @09:33AM (#30640379)
I am not sure, where you draw that conclusion from, but yes that would be correct.

Because the jewish religious law (which many jews have to follow to peer pressure, even if they are not religious by themself) explicitely forbids marrying non jews and no one can convert to the jewish religion.

Muslims on the other hand can marry non muslims, but are supposed to convert them. So this is indeed way more comon.

Re:Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian s... by this2shallPass on Friday March 11, 2022 @11:33PM (#30649021)
> no one can convert to the jewish religion

Citation needed / this is not correct. It isn't easy, but it is perfectly kosher.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_to_Judaism

Re:Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian s... by hutzlibu on Saturday March 12, 2022 @03:22AM (#30649901)
Ok, it seems I have been wrong about this as a general statement and liberal (or even most?) jew movements indeed consider it possible.

Last time I checked - it seems I read a viewpoint from a rather orthodox rabbi (but his article was the first one, that showed up in google at that time, now I cannot find it anymore), which clearly stated, this is not possible at all, with no exception.

The only way, would be to recognized as a "lost jew", meaning being of jewish origin, who lost connection to the tribe (even some generations ago). And the recognition would need years of devotion.

Re:Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian s... by this2shallPass on Saturday March 12, 2022 @01:54PM (#30653787)
Maybe that is the case with some small, insular sects of Orthodox Jews? Some of the groups among those often referred to as the "Ultra Orthodox" - I don't know.

It is not aligned with the vast majority of Jewish views about conversion to Judaism.

In general, conversion is possible. As far as I can tell there are even clearly-enough defined requirements.

Jews are not supposed to treat converts any differently than non-converts. People being people, this doesn't always happen, but that is the reasonable principle.

Given that Jews for centuries have not proselytized to non-Jews, many believe you cannot convert to Judaism. You can.

Re:Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian s... by hutzlibu on Saturday March 12, 2022 @03:35PM (#30654669)
I really cannot find that article anymore, but yes, it seems it must have come from an ultra ultra orthodox section and who knows why it ranked number 1 on google at that time (some years ago), fooling me. Because apparently yes, you absolutely can convert to judaism. It just isn't easy, like it is with other religions.