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Re:Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian s... by adielsa on Friday March 11, 2022 @08:50AM (#30639844)
This article doesn’t really provide much in the way of explanation for why this law is being enacted. Here [0] is a better article that quotes supporters and objectors to the law. It includes the (IMHO not very convincing) figures that "Between 1993 and 2003, around 130,000 Palestinians were given Israeli citizenship or residency through family unification, including children, according to court filings. The Shin Bet security service told the Knesset on Monday that between 2001 and 2021, about 48 were involved in terror activities.”

48 of 130,000 amounts to 0.037% being involved in terrorist activities which seems very low to be used as justification for a law around security.

Re:Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian s... by burnoutgal on Friday March 11, 2022 @09:00AM (#30639963)
well, and the israeli definition of "terror activities" for palestinians could be as simple as "showed up at a protest"
Re:Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian s... by aaomidi on Friday March 11, 2022 @09:04AM (#30640007)
Yep. Qualitative words are meaningless.
Re:Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian s... by petra on Friday March 11, 2022 @09:43AM (#30640481)
This is not only about terror activity.

I'm an Israeli, politically left leaning and it's a shame that I need to write the following(and for many years I've believed the opposite) :

The Israeli Arabs are a big problem. We've seen it during the last war with Gaza, when those many Israeli Arab citizens created mobs that did many violent actions in quite a few places. Israeli people in some cities had to flee their homes. And yes there we're also Israeli mobs.

This is not the first time this happens.

It's gotten seriously bad, so bad that now the Israeli Army is building special roads bypassing areas with a lot of Israeli Arab citizens, because those areas aren't safe to use in the case of a war on our borders,

So objectively, Arabs and Jews mix very poorly.

So is it wise to add another 130K such citizens every ten years ? Or more specifically, Palestinians, who hate us even more ? Or is it just increasing the problem ?

And sure, this isn't a nice decision. We Israelis live in a partial war situation. That's the reality.

So you can't compare it to barring Mexicans from enter to the US. It's much more complicated.

Re:Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian s... by probably_wrong on Friday March 11, 2022 @09:26AM (#30640285)
Off-topic: Did you copy this other comment [1] from this same thread but forgot to copy the reference for "[0]"?

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30639558

Re:Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian s... by danuker on Friday March 11, 2022 @09:14AM (#30640134)
Blackstone's ratio says "It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."

Assuming the ratios of terrorists to innocent spouses stays constant, 2708 innocent spouses will be denied citizenship for every terrorist mildly inconvenienced.

Re:Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian s... by hajile on Friday March 11, 2022 @09:09AM (#30640080)
The US let’s in millions of people each year and the number of terrorists is essentially 0.000000%

48 terrorists means somewhere between hundreds and thousands of innocent people died.