Re:Ask HN: Does No-Fly zone mean declaring a War with Russia?
by kavalg on Friday March 11, 2022 @04:39PM
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And I still wonder why they did it. Maybe Ukraine is a trap in which Russia got caught, so that many people will die, Russia will get exhausted and then the West can interfere when the time and political climate is right. I am scared to think about this possibility. I would really like to hope that the plan of the West is that Ukraine will prevail and there isn't any plan B that includes the West directly confronting with Russia.
Re:Ask HN: Does No-Fly zone mean declaring a War with Russia?
by monday40 on Friday March 11, 2022 @12:02AM
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>>the US and other NATO countries pulled their people out. Military, diplomat, civilian - all out.
One exception that I know of: Poland's ambassador Bartosz Cichocki stayed in Kiev. Polish consulate in Lviv is still working.
This cleared the space so that when Putin attacked, there would be no NATO personnel in the line of fire, and no excuse for a war.
If there was any interest in preventing what is going on, those people would not have been pulled out, and instead, additional exercises with Ukraine would have been conducted, sending a strong message to Putin.
Instead, a vacuum was created that would be hard for someone like Putin to resist.
It's now pretty much too late, except for possibly establishing a no-fly zone in the west of Ukraine to deal with the humanitarian crisis. But, you would need some leadership ability to do that, and that is severely lacking.