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Re:Amazon lied about using seller data, lawmakers say, urgin... by makeitdouble on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @08:30PM (#30622228)
TBF every company managing a web application should be doing the same.

You positively need to know what your users come to click on, where they bail, what features they never use, what browsers constantly drop out at this specific part of your website, what IP uses the bot that scrapes your most costly site wide search every millisecond etc.

Sure, any of these data could be derive from more focused, pinpoint check if you knew in advance what exactly you need to know. But let's be realistic, there's no way to anticipate every single use case and only collect the minimum data needed to fulfill it.

I don't see detailed usage data collection as a critical issue as long as it isn't sold/leaked/stored for decades/misused to harm. We can come up with so many cases where it has been effectively misused, but I'd argue it's like saying kitchen knives are misused again and again to kill people and we should stop their use. It's not realistic.

Re:Amazon lied about using seller data, lawmakers say, urgin... by kornhole on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @10:08PM (#30622803)
I am well aware that any commercial site tracks everything they can. I was merely trying to answer this guy's question about what data Amazon has on sellers.

Personally I don't like having to show my ID when I walk into a store and then have a guy follow me around with a clipboard writing down everything I look at, touch.. I run out of such stores which is why I deleted my Amazon account.

Re:Amazon lied about using seller data, lawmakers say, urgin... by makeitdouble on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @10:15PM (#30622850)
Point taken !

> Personally I don't like having to show my ID when I walk into a store and then have a guy follow me around with a clipboard writing down everything I look at, touch.. I run out of such stores which is why I deleted my Amazon account.

This...is kinda like the next frontier, with in-store camera tracking and linking it to the customer at checkout (either through the loyalty card or credit card token if applicable). We're already partially in that future IMO.

Re:Amazon lied about using seller data, lawmakers say, urgin... by autoexec on Thursday March 10, 2022 @01:49AM (#30623847)
Stores already track your movement as you move around though bluetooth beacons.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/06/14/opinion/bluet...

Re:Amazon lied about using seller data, lawmakers say, urgin... by kornhole on Thursday March 10, 2022 @11:12AM (#30628520)
Yes physical stores are becoming as hostile as ecommerce sites. When i enter one, my phone stays in airplane mode, wear a mask to evade facial recognition and pay cash.