Re:Senior devs. Is anyone else insulted by coding exams?
by xzyyyz on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @07:43PM
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> Disagreeing with social norms doesn't strike me as humble.
we're leaving in different social circles... so it is totally possible that the norm i see differs from yours.
I worked once for the startup where idea was, "engineer" does not need prefix. Salaries, responsibilities, you name it -- were different. The title (in R&D) was not. Nobody cares.
I did not say "skill". I do not care about skills any more than I care about years of experience. The only thing I care about is ability, willingness, and readiness to contribute. The same person might match differently in different companies. E.g., intimate knowledge of C++ in embedded systems (e.g., avionics software) might be highly irrelevant in web-oriented startup, which is pushing Python. Would 10+ years engineer qualify for "staff" position? definitely no. "senior"? -- maybe. If Boing had layoff, it might be an option for somebody to restart carrier. A good person will quickly grow through the ladder, in the same company or moving on. But immediately? please.
> a matter of law for government jobs
One can think of government as a single employer. In my company there is a levelling guide. We do not care about government, government does not care about us. :-)
we're leaving in different social circles... so it is totally possible that the norm i see differs from yours.
I worked once for the startup where idea was, "engineer" does not need prefix. Salaries, responsibilities, you name it -- were different. The title (in R&D) was not. Nobody cares.
I did not say "skill". I do not care about skills any more than I care about years of experience. The only thing I care about is ability, willingness, and readiness to contribute. The same person might match differently in different companies. E.g., intimate knowledge of C++ in embedded systems (e.g., avionics software) might be highly irrelevant in web-oriented startup, which is pushing Python. Would 10+ years engineer qualify for "staff" position? definitely no. "senior"? -- maybe. If Boing had layoff, it might be an option for somebody to restart carrier. A good person will quickly grow through the ladder, in the same company or moving on. But immediately? please.
> a matter of law for government jobs One can think of government as a single employer. In my company there is a levelling guide. We do not care about government, government does not care about us. :-)