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Re:Show HN: World’s first £3 flat fee (0% FX markup) money t... by wdaareg on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @04:04AM (#30612396)
We sure aren't! We're tired of seeing traditional players hiding fees in the rate - and we're not about it. Our rate is the interbank rate directly from the world's biggest exchanges. Customers really are paying just £3 to move any amount all the way up to £1 million.
Re:Show HN: World’s first £3 flat fee (0% FX markup) money t... by beefield on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @06:05AM (#30613228)
My hat is off if you can pull it off, but I have to say it sounds economically dangerous. To you, that is. (And still, as long as you do not show your bid/ask, it looks like you are hiding something in your price.)
Re:Show HN: World’s first £3 flat fee (0% FX markup) money t... by Gareth321 on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @09:26AM (#30614696)
There isn't much systemic risk if they're locking in their conversion rates with providers at the time of customer transaction. The risk is in the fee structure: will they attract enough customers to actually keep the lights on with that fee? I certainly hope so, because this is so great if it ends up working as advertised.
Re:Show HN: World’s first £3 flat fee (0% FX markup) money t... by mcjiggerlog on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @05:09AM (#30612825)
Right this second it reports that transferring 10,000 GBP would give you 12,000.71 EUR vs the 11,949.73 EUR you would get by using Wise, which is probably the best known competitor. Seems pretty good to me!
Re:Show HN: World’s first £3 flat fee (0% FX markup) money t... by pkavanagh on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @05:22AM (#30612911)
Hi - other founder Patrick here, thank you for your interest and analysis.

It's worth noting that the rates you see on the pages often have a bit of delay - I believe both Wise and Atlantic would end up having very similar underlying FX rates, since there's no markup on either.

However, with Wise, the more you send, the more you pay in fees - so there's a break-even where it starts to become more economical to use Atlantic.

Re:Show HN: World’s first £3 flat fee (0% FX markup) money t... by randogeuebdb on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @07:35AM (#30613760)
Thank you for explaining this. It’s rare to see someone acknowledge the quality of a direct competitor.

Seems to me that the biggest risk to Wise and Atlantic is growing so large that the incumbents will change their pricing.

Re:Show HN: World’s first £3 flat fee (0% FX markup) money t... by vidarh on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @11:12AM (#30616113)
This was a lesson I learned the hard way with my first startup: Be cautious about how much you undercut your largest competitors unless/until you have deep pockets and/or unless you're very sure that their economics makes it impossible for them to undercut you on price, because the more you undercut them the more you're inviting a price war you can't win without deep pockets the moment they perceive you as a threat.

When trying to enter an established market to compete on price as your primary differentiator it's often better to keep your margins higher to start with than offer the steepest cut you think you can afford, and then drop your prices slowly as you build up volume and a war chest.

Re:Show HN: World’s first £3 flat fee (0% FX markup) money t... by easytiger on Friday March 11, 2022 @05:05AM (#30638178)
Right now on revolut GBP:EUR £10000 buys $11912.07. This service is promisng €12,000.71