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Re:Internet Backbone Giant Lumen Shuns .RU by Karrot_Kream on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @08:41PM (#30610022)
> "sanctions would continue for an indeterminant (but likely not indefinite) time."

Right, so here "indeterminant" is the "devil in the details". Is this the matter of days? Weeks? Months? Years? Decades? Sanctions are always a calculated risk. Their goal tends to be to destabilize regimes by making it difficult for members of the regime to move money or otherwise live their lives, placing hopefully direct pressure on the regime itself. But if the regime feels comfortable staying the course despite the sanctions, then what are we achieving here? I'm not against sanctions and I think sanctions are a necessity for modern diplomacy; but they need to have a clearly understood end goal in mind. Right now there seems to be a lot of moralizing and very little actual game theory in an escalating conflict with a nuclear power. Is the end game here to morally shame Russia or is it to end this conflict?

> Seeing as how we didn't sever communications with the USSR forever in the first Cold War

Communications between citizens of the West and the USSR was effectively severed for the duration of the Cold War. That's the question. Is the end game of these sanctions to start another Cold War or not?

Re:Internet Backbone Giant Lumen Shuns .RU by BobbyJo on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @09:57PM (#30610416)
> Is the end game of these sanctions to start another Cold War or not?

End game as in intent, or end game as in result?

The intent is stopping the war in Ukraine. The result remains to be seen.

Re:Internet Backbone Giant Lumen Shuns .RU by Karrot_Kream on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @11:21PM (#30610906)
End game meaning intent. Is this meant to be a punitive action or is it meant to hasten the war to a close, and will sanctions lift if the war in Ukraine ends with the loss of Ukraine or a months long conflict?
Re:Internet Backbone Giant Lumen Shuns .RU by BobbyJo on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @07:21AM (#30613673)
It's meant to make the war more expensive, financially and politically, than originally planned, potentially changing the ROI enough to change Putin's mind. The longer it goes on, the greater the cost.