Assessing a Claim: Is San Francisco's Shoplifting Problem Fake?

Re:Assessing a Claim: Is San Francisco's Shoplifting Problem... by gota on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @09:27AM (#30600194)

What a terrible article. It essentially argues against a previous position that amounts to a bunch of "I guess"es...

And does so with nothing but it's own, new guesses.

When they do deal with data, they are both unclear and, it seems, aim more at manipulating emotion or finding "but"s than honestly considering probable causes/consequences/correlations

Skip this article in favor of better, data driven ones

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Re:Assessing a Claim: Is San Francisco's Shoplifting Problem... by clearcoat on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @09:41AM (#30600374)

I mean I am seeing this with my own eyes, and I am seeing numerous incidents go totally unreported that aren't going to show up in statistics anyway.

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Re:Assessing a Claim: Is San Francisco's Shoplifting Problem... by dekhn on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @10:02AM (#30600625)

Or, you could just take the word of people living in the Bay Area. Not all social situations are best analyzed by passive data observation. Instead, you should listen to people who live or work in these neighborhoods, as they see this happening (going unreported, because why report something if the police don't do anything?) constantly. Really, constantly.

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Re:Assessing a Claim: Is San Francisco's Shoplifting Problem... by msrenee on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @02:48PM (#30605645)

Does reducing a crime from a felony to a misdemeanor constitute decriminalization? I'm honestly curious. That's not how I've understood the term to be used.

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Re:Assessing a Claim: Is San Francisco's Shoplifting Problem... by ensignavenger on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @09:41AM (#30600372)

The author of the article admits that they don't know the answer to the question.

Do you have any suggestions for a better, data driven articles that address this particular issue?

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