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Re:Why not just use an IDE if you want IDE features? by stonemetal on Saturday October 01, 2011 @09:21AM (#3059999)
I would say there are two components to it. Language and project size. Java and C# where designed with IDE use in mind. I am not sure I would want to work in either without an IDE. For smaller languages like C and Python an IDE wouldn't be my first choice of tooling, the cost of using the tool just isn't worth the benefit provided. I could see switching to an IDE if the project got a little too large.
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Re:Why not just use an IDE if you want IDE features? by arethuza on Saturday October 01, 2011 @09:37AM (#3060030)
C# probably was but I suspect it wasn't a factor in the initial design of Java - I don't even remember there being any IDEs for the first couple of years of Java being widely available.
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Re:Why not just use an IDE if you want IDE features? by burgerbrain on Saturday October 01, 2011 @12:32PM (#3060335)
I would say that Java was designed to be used with committees. Basically a language to use if you're in a design by committee situation. IDEs were then introduced to give individuals their own "virtual design committees".
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Re:Why not just use an IDE if you want IDE features? by bmj on Saturday October 01, 2011 @11:04AM (#3060152)
Agreed regarding C#. I've tried using vim as my C# editor, then switching to VS for builds and debugging, but I miss Intellisense too much (and with vim emulator in VS, I don't lose any of my keyboard efficiencies).
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Re:Why not just use an IDE if you want IDE features? by Nick_C on Saturday October 01, 2011 @11:54PM (#3062009)
As a counterpoint, the way VS does autocomplete drives me insane. In the middle of a frenzy of flow typing, I have to move my hands away from the keyboard to the mouse to select which autocomplete entry I want. Aargh. It breaks the flow. (Although, I am using the Express edition so have not tried a vim emulator; perhaps their autocomplete is better.)
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Re:Why not just use an IDE if you want IDE features? by stonemetal on Sunday October 02, 2011 @08:14AM (#3062665)
Those are the default settings you can turn off the popups and get all your auto complete needs from ctrl-space, and complete with enter.
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