News for hackers. Stuff that matters.

A comment on Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission. Parent comment

Re:Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission by curiousgal on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @02:37AM (#30597411)
Honestly, I stopped using Reddit, the amount of Ukranian propaganda has been through the roof. People are romanticizing the war. I log in to look at memes and cat videos and instead watch kids making molotoves.

I have no horse in this race, propoganda is propoganda.

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission by adhesive_wombat on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @02:56AM (#30597561)
I have had family abroad (not Russia) tell me that the media there is reporting that Ukrainian paramilitary forces, including released prisoners, forcibly prevented their own citizens leaving and collapsed the humanitarian corridors[1].

And the problem is, it's actually not completely outside the realms of possiblity, and I have no way to know. As far as I'm aware, the Ukrainians are fighting the good fight, but that's what I _would_ think. When the propaganda is flying this thick and this fast, maybe I'm as bamboozled as anyone else.

On the other hand shrugging and going "dunno, both sides lol" seems pretty ghoulish when the civilians are being killed and homes and cities bombed to nothing.

[1] I do not know where they got that from but it would have been TV. Trying to figure out where that comes from using only sources I can find leads me to a combination of the (apparently true) report that prisoners with military experience are released if they fight against Russia[2] and a TASS(!) report that Ukraine is responsible for collapsing the corridors[3].

[2] https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-army... amongst others

[3] https://tass.com/politics/1417527

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission by 331c8c71 on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @03:11AM (#30597683)
> at the media there is reporting that Ukrainian paramilitary forces ... forcibly prevented their own citizens leaving and collapsed the humanitarian corridors

That's no secret, that's pretty much from official statements of Russian officials.

Al Jazeera reports what both sides are saying.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/7/russian-military-con...

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission by sofixa on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @06:21AM (#30598731)
> That's no secret, that's pretty much from official statements of Russian officials.

As if the official statements of Russian officials are worth the toilet paper said officials use. Did you miss all the blatant bullshit they said up to and during the invasion? That it's only military exercises, that they're pulling back troops, that they're only on a small special operation, etc. Why would anyone trust them?

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission by hef19898 on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @02:51AM (#30597521)
It sure is. Ukraine is using that weapon masterfully so. Kudos for that, and I really mean it. The net result for me being that I ignore the news and only check once every couple of days if a major city has fallen or not. Everything else is just propaganda, including most media coverage, combined with the normal attention and click gathering reporting we se on any story.

That's why confirmation and vetting by orgs like, e.g., Human Rights Watch is so important.

[ Parent | on HN ]