News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Why do countries welcome some refugees and shut others out? by derefr on Monday March 07, 2022 @07:20PM (#30595061)
One obvious distinction the article doesn't make, is between people fleeing their country temporarily with intent to return, vs. indefinitely. Syrian refugees have no expectation of ever going back to Syria. Ukrainian refugees can probably go back home within the year.
Re:Why do countries welcome some refugees and shut others out? by nikolay on Monday March 07, 2022 @07:37PM (#30595167)
Many Ukraiians work abroad, mainly in Poland and Germany, but they need some investment for it. Now that so many Ukrainians are in Poland and in Germany, I doubt most will go back anytime soon, especially given the destruction back home.
Re:Why do countries welcome some refugees and shut others out? by makx on Monday March 07, 2022 @08:09PM (#30595352)
Whether or not that's the case, they are not perceived as such. Europeans may be mistaken in believing Ukrainians just want temporary shelter and Syrians are coming to stay, but whether it's true or false doesn't matter. It's this belief that affects their attitude.
Re:Why do countries welcome some refugees and shut others out? by nikolay on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @02:37PM (#30605401)
I did hear on the Bulgarian TV some Ukrainians openly saying: "We're gonna learn the language, we're gonna work in Bulgaria." That won't be news as most of our seasonal work was already done by Ukrainians, but speaking to Ukrainians who do seasonal work in Poland and Germany - they've shared to me that they were often treated as cattle.
Re:Why do countries welcome some refugees and shut others out? by cato_the_elder on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @12:10AM (#30596651)
> Ukrainian refugees can probably go back home within the year.

They probably won't go back if they can. Ukraine is a very poor country, at least by European standards. [1]

Because of their brave resistance to the invasion, we tend to see the country in an overly optimistic light.

[1]: It's the poorest country in Europe by nominal GDP per capita: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Ukraine

Re:Why do countries welcome some refugees and shut others out? by mkr-hn on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @09:44AM (#30600419)
It's still their home. You're applying your outsider judgement and not considering how the actual people involved might feel. A lot of those refugees are leaving for safety while someone stays behind to fight for a place they can return to.
Re:Why do countries welcome some refugees and shut others out? by xdennis on Monday March 07, 2022 @08:05PM (#30595335)
Another distinction is that almost all Ukrainian refugees are women and children.