Re:Four-year-old Israeli child tests positive for polio, fir...
by wolverine876 on Sunday March 06, 2022 @09:06PM
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People are responsible for their own behavior and can make choices. You can make choices. They aren't victims of systems.
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Re:Four-year-old Israeli child tests positive for polio, fir...
by awb on Sunday March 06, 2022 @09:44PM
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True but I doubt you’re as immune to persuasion and logical fallacies as your comment suggests. The point remains that we’re all human and will make many mistakes in our lifetime. Our circumstances are a huge part of that.
Re:Four-year-old Israeli child tests positive for polio, fir...
by Daishiman on Sunday March 06, 2022 @09:38PM
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Some choices are far too complex for most people to grasp. Some choices require a sense of civic duty and common will.
Re:Four-year-old Israeli child tests positive for polio, fir...
by wolverine876 on Sunday March 06, 2022 @10:08PM
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> Some choices are far too complex for most people to grasp. Some choices require a sense of civic duty and common will.
The results show that humans do a pretty good job and do advance, and do have civic duty (I don't know what "common will" means). IME, the problem is the people who make choices like refusing vaccines and then say humanity is fundamentally incompentent. They have an easy solution!
Re:Four-year-old Israeli child tests positive for polio, fir...
by geranim0 on Sunday March 06, 2022 @09:12PM
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Choice is an illusion, it's all just chaos
Re:Four-year-old Israeli child tests positive for polio, fir...
by tengbretson on Sunday March 06, 2022 @11:15PM
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The ability to classify any system as chaotic requires an ordered mind against which the system is compared.
Re:Four-year-old Israeli child tests positive for polio, fir...
by rexpop on Sunday March 06, 2022 @10:19PM
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Choice is an illusion, it's all just an order too big to load into RAM.
Re:Four-year-old Israeli child tests positive for polio, fir...
by rexpop on Sunday March 06, 2022 @10:18PM
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> Men make their own history, but they do not make it as they please; they do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already, given and transmitted from the past. The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living.
— Ad Hominem, 1852
Re:Four-year-old Israeli child tests positive for polio, fir...
by wolverine876 on Monday March 07, 2022 @01:33AM
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Look how much the world has changed since then!
Re:Four-year-old Israeli child tests positive for polio, fir...
by rexpop on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @08:24PM
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I think it is fair to say that some aspects of the human condition will never, by definition, change.
Re:Four-year-old Israeli child tests positive for polio, fir...
by wolverine876 on Thursday March 10, 2022 @06:04PM
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That doesn't really assert anything. Many aspects will change dramatically, and often they are aspects that nobody previously imagined possible. The people who believe in change and possibility are the ones who do good things. The question is, what can we change and how much?
When people don't want change, they pull out that parent argument and apply it, through some general claim, and not actually address the issue at hand.
Re:Four-year-old Israeli child tests positive for polio, fir...
by npteljes on Monday March 07, 2022 @04:07AM
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They are both. Theoretically they can make their own choice, but the are also heavily influenced by systems. So people who build, maintain and execute the systems have a large responsibility too.
Re:Four-year-old Israeli child tests positive for polio, fir...
by PartiallyTyped on Monday March 07, 2022 @06:09AM
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Only if you can argue free-will exists.