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Re:Interop 2022: browsers working together to improve the we... by userbinator on Sunday March 06, 2022 @04:48PM (#30581603)
The problem is exactly that attitude turning what used to be highly accessible and interactive sites into elephantine "web apps" that need the latest and most user-hostile version of $BIG_BROWSER (which doesn't run on older OS and thus hardware too) to do what was perfectly possible with technology of a decade ago, or even less functionality.

I wonder what is more responsible for that; the fact that people don't care about history, or that corporate propaganda has pushed them away from realising it.

Re:Interop 2022: browsers working together to improve the we... by agust on Sunday March 06, 2022 @05:12PM (#30581785)
If websites are turned into web apps with more features, it's probably because it's bringing in money, in the form of users or consumers, don't you think? If consumers tended to like simple "interactive" websites like we used to have 10 years ago, companies would probably not bother building modern web apps. But that's not the case. Web apps, in general, do provide a way better experience than simple websites, and users do like them. There is no propaganda at work here, just simple market mechanisms.

If anyone is to blame for showing that a better user experience is possible, it's probably those who pushed for quality UI in native apps, that web apps are trying to match.

Re:Interop 2022: browsers working together to improve the we... by userbinator on Sunday March 06, 2022 @07:43PM (#30582799)
No, users often have next to no choice in what they are forced to use, or don't know better. It's just that the industry has been saturated with too many web developers who have nothing else to do, and companies like Google trying to increase their browser monopoly --- which ties in with attempting to make sure that users "don't know better".

Talk to people outside of the tech bubble. They hate what's happening, and also feel powerless to stop it.

Re:Interop 2022: browsers working together to improve the we... by xhubin on Sunday March 06, 2022 @10:09PM (#30583809)
The problem is exactly that attitude turning what used to be highly accessible and interactive apps into elephantine "native apps" that need the latest and most user-hostile version of $BIG_OS (which doesn't run on older hardware) to do what was perfectly possible with technology of a decade ago, or even less functionality. I wonder what is more responsible for that; the fact that people don't care about history, or that corporate propaganda has pushed them away from realising it.

The web is way more free and open than operating systems. And if you want to build a website with only HTML and vanilla JS nothing is stopping you. There are websites made in the 90s that still work today. I much prefer the web, web apps and PWAs to their native counterparts.