I know this will seem like a troll, but please take this as a genuine attempt at a meeting of minds. I am not an American and I would like to understand some things.

Do you believe climate change is real? Or even putting aside that, what are your thoughts on air pollution and the early deaths caused by cancer and other diseases that can, at least partly, be linked back to the burning of hydrocarbons next to peoples every day lives?

I get that there is an element of Red state vs Blue state, and all the goes along with that. But do you agree that there are downsides to internal combustion? Those down sides might be environmental, health, or even national security, but at least some of them exist right?

And those downsides are worse the larger a vehicle is right?

So isn't less ICE vehicles, and smaller versions of the ones that can't be replaced, a good thing?

I agree that some of the emotive language used by both sides here isn't helpful to actually action any change, but to an outsider it looks a little like cutting off your nose to spite the lib-tards.

You might have a good reason to drive a low MPG vehicle, but why celebrate that when doing so negatively impacts all the people around you?

It was more of a tongue in cheek response. I believe in the need to pollute less, my opinion on that is fairly strong. I do drive a modified vehicle that is emissions testing exempt under state law, but my other two vehicles are more fuel efficient and retain all original emissions equipment.