Re:Moscow police officers stop people, request their phones ...
by mechanical_bear on Sunday March 06, 2022 @01:09PM
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This tactic is used by trolls to distract from the real issue. It puts people on the defensive rather than discussing the actual topic. “Whataboutism” at its best.
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Re:Moscow police officers stop people, request their phones ...
by sofixa on Sunday March 06, 2022 @01:14PM
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Sometimes it's not even a troll distracting, sometimes it's a stupid American who can't not talk about his unique experience - you see this often on Reddit, someone from a country will complain about something specific there, and an American will show up to say "that's nothing, here at Whatever, TX, it's even worse/better/bigger/cooler/etc."
Re:Moscow police officers stop people, request their phones ...
by gafferongames on Sunday March 06, 2022 @02:21PM
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But usually it's trolls
Re:Moscow police officers stop people, request their phones ...
by ashwagary on Sunday March 06, 2022 @01:52PM
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It's not always whataboutism, sometimes it's just a comparison.
Americans have this strange habit of expecting their "enemy of the day" to operate under a different standard than they do. These comparisons put things in perspective for people temporarily blinded by jingoism.
Re:Moscow police officers stop people, request their phones ...
by User23 on Sunday March 06, 2022 @01:36PM
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The term “whataboutism” is a tell for intellectual laziness at best. Considering multiple particular cases to draw general conclusions is basic ratiocination. You might as well just call the person you’re talking to a “chud” instead and be done with it.
Re:Moscow police officers stop people, request their phones ...
by gafferongames on Sunday March 06, 2022 @02:21PM
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If you cannot defend a subject without resorting to whataboutism, I would say this instead is intellectual laziness.
Re:Moscow police officers stop people, request their phones ...
by smcl on Monday March 07, 2022 @05:47AM
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More often than not when I've seen "whataboutism" used here it means "You can't say that (about me), I said it (about you) first!" which is in my opinion, intellectually lazy. There are times when a bad faith whatabout-ist argument is made as a diversionary tactic and they are frustrating, but the original comment[0] we are discussing does not feel like that to me. In fact the comment they were replying to is making the lazy and intellectually lacking argument.
Re:Moscow police officers stop people, request their phones ...
by User23 on Sunday March 06, 2022 @07:02PM
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I wouldn’t call Socrates intellectually lazy.
Re:Moscow police officers stop people, request their phones ...
by gafferongames on Monday March 07, 2022 @03:25PM
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But what about Socrates?