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Re:Mozilla patches two use-after-free vulnerabilities (ab)us... by fulafel on Sunday March 06, 2022 @01:44AM (#30575554)
There are more factors affecting your safety as a user: how popular a target is the app? Eg a Linux desktop is thought to be less likely to get a malware infection than a Windows desktop, even though Windows has more security investment and attention and mechanisms (antivirus, quarantined files, etc) to defend against this. The same reasons might apply: Firefox too has a smaller market share and more discerning user base, so less attractive to target at least for mass malware.

We're reduced to reasoning like this because we've in browser security apathy.

If only there was a browser that wasn't implemented by juggling chainsaws like this... It's ridiculous that we have been unable to just fire all the these apps for sane reimplementation. Feeding hostile internet content to millions of lines of unsafe code day in, day out on billions of user devices would sound like a ridiculous idea if it were invented today.

Re:Mozilla patches two use-after-free vulnerabilities (ab)us... by kaba0 on Sunday March 06, 2022 @02:27AM (#30575729)
> It's ridiculous that we have been unable to just fire all the these apps for sane reimplementation

It is unfortunately nigh impossible to reimplement the web with its gigantic scope.

Re:Mozilla patches two use-after-free vulnerabilities (ab)us... by fulafel on Sunday March 06, 2022 @02:41AM (#30575775)
It's easy to get daunted at least.

A realistic scenario could be something along the lines of: get content onboard by securing some buy-in from some heavyweights, for a reduced feature set. Maybe convince a incumbent browser vendor or two to also provide a safer kernel for that content profile. Then targeting that feature set with the new implementation, and supporting a compatibility mode fallback to a legacy rendering engine for other web content. (VM-based or remote cloud based sandboxed rendering for the fallback?)

But the above would of course have a much better chance of taking off if there was a promising start of an implementation first, so it's not necessarily a reason to wait for the big boys before working on it.

(I wonder if Servo could be a starting point?)

Re:Mozilla patches two use-after-free vulnerabilities (ab)us... by concinds on Sunday March 06, 2022 @11:58PM (#30584375)
> The same reasons might apply: Firefox too has a smaller market share and more discerning user base, so less attractive to target at least for mass malware.

Firefox is Tor Browser which is the most attractive target by far for 0 days. 0 days are often not targeted to a single individual anymore but are commonly used "in the wild" against mass targets, e.g. everyone who browses a political dissident website.

Re:Mozilla patches two use-after-free vulnerabilities (ab)us... by fulafel on Monday March 07, 2022 @02:08AM (#30584987)
This sounds like a plausible factor but on the other hand, people who use Tor might be more security conscious and/or tech savvy, frequently run in a sandbox VM - and those unpatched vulnerabilities might get burned sooner if used on them. Any evidence or data would be interesting to see of course.