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Re:MasterCard suspends all services in Russia by 3np on Saturday March 05, 2022 @05:55PM (#30572797)
So individuals who recently left Russia out of fear for the regime and may be in very vulnerable positions have potentially unexpectedly lost access to their funds until they can sort that out...

Meanwhile, for The Real Russians, business as usual.

This looks like theatre hurting the wrong people.

Re:MasterCard suspends all services in Russia by alkonaut on Saturday March 05, 2022 @06:18PM (#30572985)
Anyone who ran across the border and hoped to get their savings from inside Russia once out were naive (or more likely just in a hurry). This is one of few good use cases for cryptocurrency.
Re:MasterCard suspends all services in Russia by throw-ru-938 on Saturday March 05, 2022 @06:27PM (#30573058)
Getting hard currency in Russia right now is a long and difficult process, there's a massive shortage.
Re:MasterCard suspends all services in Russia by 3np on Saturday March 05, 2022 @06:45PM (#30573212)
How difficult is it to get access to BTC? Does it trade at a premium?
Re:MasterCard suspends all services in Russia by SergeAx on Sunday March 06, 2022 @04:16PM (#30581341)
What's wrong with getting savings across border using ATM cash withdrawal while abroad? Limits are quite high for debit cards (and could be customized via client support), ATM commissions in first world countries are more than reasonable (up to 0%).
Re:MasterCard suspends all services in Russia by dehrmann on Saturday March 05, 2022 @09:03PM (#30574285)
There's a chance that this triggers EU, NATO, and partner countries to ban or heavily regulate cryptocurrencies.
Re:MasterCard suspends all services in Russia by 3np on Sunday March 06, 2022 @08:36AM (#30577516)
Already on it, according to the director for cybersecurity and secure digital innovation for the US White House National Security Council.

https://events.trmlabs.com/trm-labs/TRM-Talks-Russia-Sanctio...

(They ask you to register to view but viewing is possible without verifying the e-mail)

Re:MasterCard suspends all services in Russia by quotha on Saturday March 05, 2022 @09:01PM (#30574277)
Yes, imagine, you only need to remember 12 words!
Re:MasterCard suspends all services in Russia by colesantiago on Saturday March 05, 2022 @06:47PM (#30573229)
This is still not a usecase for 'cryptocurrencies' at all. In fact the big crypto exchanges have now blocked Russian users.
Re:MasterCard suspends all services in Russia by 3np on Saturday March 05, 2022 @07:12PM (#30573438)
There are ways to exchange fiat for cryptocurrency without going through a regulated business. Bisq, localcryptos, coordinating over chat and meeting up IRL.
Re:MasterCard suspends all services in Russia by colesantiago on Saturday March 05, 2022 @07:36PM (#30573632)
Good luck finding someone to trade crypto tokens with without burning up the planet as with all these tokens do.

By the time you found someone and agreed, the price would have dropped 30%.

You might as well use the existing system.

Re:MasterCard suspends all services in Russia by root_axis on Saturday March 05, 2022 @08:11PM (#30573921)
Ok. So there's a war on, and I make a public post online advertising that I have a bunch of cash and I'd like to meet up to facilitate a trade...
Re:MasterCard suspends all services in Russia by 3np on Saturday March 05, 2022 @08:47PM (#30574161)
Did you check out the anonymity properties of Bisq and localcryptos?
Re:MasterCard suspends all services in Russia by lekevicius on Saturday March 05, 2022 @07:08PM (#30573404)
[citation needed]? I only know that Binance and Kraken specifically spoken against blocking the country.
Re:MasterCard suspends all services in Russia by 3np on Saturday March 05, 2022 @08:57PM (#30574245)
To be more specific: They did not speak out about blocking "the country" but about closing accounts and restricting access for all Russian citizens/residents. They are, however, complying with targeted sanctions of the individuals on the sanction list.

If the scope of the OFAC sanctions forces the exchanges to start blocking Russian passport holders and/or residents, that will change, of course.

Kraken CEO tweet thread: http://nitter7bryz3jv7e3uekphigvmoyoem4al3fynerxkj22dmoxoq55...

Re:MasterCard suspends all services in Russia by colesantiago on Saturday March 05, 2022 @07:21PM (#30573512)
Great, they can ban Russians when forced to anyway? So much for no censorship on crypto tokens even a South Korean crypto exchange has done it. [0]

We both know the writing is on the wall and crypto will end up being useless for Russian users.

[0] https://cryptopotato.com/south-korean-crypto-exchanges-block...

Re:MasterCard suspends all services in Russia by akimball on Sunday March 06, 2022 @07:07AM (#30576998)
While you may know this, I know otherwise. Time will tell which of us has the more predictive knowledge.
Re:MasterCard suspends all services in Russia by vkou on Saturday March 05, 2022 @08:43PM (#30574143)
It's not theatre, between this, and the trade disruptions, it's currently crippling the Russian domestic economy.

People at different levels of society are, of course, affected differently, but everybody's affected at this point. Even for an aristocrat, drinking moonshine in Krasnodar just doesn't have the same caché as Don Perignon in Paris.

Re:MasterCard suspends all services in Russia by raxi on Saturday March 05, 2022 @06:49PM (#30573242)
Lyon Feuchtwanger, a Jew and anti-fascist who fled Hitler's Germany, lost all his savings in banks in the US, Canada, Britain and France. Because of the sanctions imposed on him as a German citizen. The only bank he still had money in his account in 1945 was ...German.
Re:MasterCard suspends all services in Russia by claudenm on Saturday March 05, 2022 @10:58PM (#30574908)
Any citation on that?
Re:MasterCard suspends all services in Russia by raxi on Sunday March 06, 2022 @08:10AM (#30577356)
In his books (likely in autobiographical "Unholdes Frankreich")