GE won’t let me use convection roast on my new oven without connecting to WiFi

Re:GE won’t let me use convection roast on my new oven witho... by vikingerik on Saturday March 05, 2022 @05:34PM (#30572635)

If the remote kill switch exists, it's going to be hijacked into government having the power to disable your car. It starts innocuously, something that everyone will agree with, like drunk drivers. Next will be drug dealers, who could disagree with that? Then deadbeat parents who owe child support. Then tax-owing deadbeats. Then who knows what other classes of "undesirables".

Proof? It already happened: driver licenses already went through every one of those steps, getting hijacked way beyond the original purpose of denoting that you had the training to drive a car, into government-imposed threats against all sorts of "bad" behavior.

I don't trust any expansion of government power in good faith.

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Re:GE won’t let me use convection roast on my new oven witho... by BoorishBears on Saturday March 05, 2022 @06:00PM (#30572843)

Again, this is just like saying that a camera existing enables the government to hack it, so rear view cameras are part of forming a surveillance state.

There is literally no reason for automakers to do this, and yes I know now the FUD comes in "well they will cuz reasons! cuz gubbmint!"

But just like the rear view camera... you're imagining that they'll spend significant time and money to do something with no use other than incriminating themselves...

So sure maybe your rear view camera can be rigged to stream to their servers 24/7, some already record and upload incidents anyways right?

But it's a massive jump from the happy path.

This is 100000x easier to do on the car without looping in a remote server and opens them up to 100000000000x more liability if the interface is hacked.

They wouldn't do it.

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Re:GE won’t let me use convection roast on my new oven witho... by mark-r on Saturday March 05, 2022 @09:00PM (#30574259)

> Again, this is just like saying that a camera existing enables the government to hack it, so rear view cameras are part of forming a surveillance state.

That might be the best example of a straw-man that I've ever seen.

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Re:GE won’t let me use convection roast on my new oven witho... by nobody9999 on Saturday March 05, 2022 @09:31PM (#30574455)

>> Again, this is just like saying that a camera existing enables the government to hack it, so rear view cameras are part of forming a surveillance state.

>That might be the best example of a straw-man that I've ever seen.

I think that was the point.

Replace "rear view cameras" with "onboard tools to detect and deter/prevent impaired driving" and you have the same straw man.

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Re:GE won’t let me use convection roast on my new oven witho... by BoorishBears on Sunday March 06, 2022 @12:09AM (#30575200)

This right here, that was an ironic comment to read on their part...

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