Building a web app with no framework

Re:Building a web app with no framework by zdragnar on Saturday March 05, 2022 @02:47PM (#30571210)

Is it not simpler because the applications themselves are simpler? I mean, when you say that client frameworks like angular and svelte have their place with complex UX/UI interactions.

Of course SSR is simpler- request in, send / receive from a database, markup out. It isnt anything to do with SSR- your domain is simpler.

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Re:Building a web app with no framework by yourabstraction on Saturday March 05, 2022 @09:00PM (#30574266)

> your domain is simpler

This echos my thinking whenever these framework/SSR/JavaScript debates come up. It's like everyone is talking past each other because there is no clarity around the complexity of what's being built.

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Re:Building a web app with no framework by stepbeek on Sunday March 06, 2022 @04:59AM (#30576366)

I use miro and figma as examples of products that would be extremely hard to build as a traditional SSR app.

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Re:Building a web app with no framework by naasking on Sunday March 06, 2022 @12:36AM (#30575300)

> your domain is simpler.

So you're saying the domain is simpler while still satisfying the client's requirements? I think that's exactly the OP's point.

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Re:Building a web app with no framework by zdragnar on Sunday March 06, 2022 @09:59AM (#30577961)

OP said:

> My conclusion is that SPAs definitely have their place - but that place is in the minority, mostly for web apps with complex UI/UX.

Therefore, it follows that OP finds SSR is simpler, but only because OP only uses SSR for simple problems.

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Re:Building a web app with no framework by naasking on Sunday March 06, 2022 @12:08PM (#30578996)

Non-complex UI/UX != Simple problems. Also, most problems people have don't need complex UI/UX.

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