Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends

Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by ad404b8a372f2b9 on Saturday March 05, 2022 @01:33PM (#30570414)

The problem is that Ukraine has the same security implications for Europe as it has for Russia.

I agree that the bear shouldn't have been poked for everyone's sake, the Ukrainians most of all. But now that it has, capitulation is not an option for Europe, no more than it was for America wrt Cuba's alignment in the 60s.

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Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by tsol on Saturday March 05, 2022 @01:58PM (#30570680)

Sure.. but I don't know why capitulation isn't an option-- again if the chief concern is nuclear war then why should we resist to the precipice of a world war? That's the puzzle piece that doesn't fit-- how we're making nuclear war less likely by getting involved.

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Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by sangnoir on Saturday March 05, 2022 @02:34PM (#30571079)

> but I don't know why capitulation isn't an option

There's a school of thought that says capitulation emboldens the attacker. Say Crimea and the whole of Ukraine had been handed over to Russia with no resistance, why would they stop there? Diplomacy fails when the other side misreads your intentions; a seemingly somnulent NATO may wake up to a reconstituted USSR invasion of Poland because Russia is confident fear of nuclear conflict will deter any action. No one wants that.

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