Re:Ukraine accepted to NATO cyber defence centre
by hgomersall on Saturday March 05, 2022 @09:16AM
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Hilary Clinton literally gave Sergey Lavrov a big red "reset" button. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_reset
It wasn't the first nor the last attempt at a reset on relations with Russia. https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/bush-putin-the-end-of-the...
Re:Ukraine accepted to NATO cyber defence centre
by danbruc on Saturday March 05, 2022 @09:42AM
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What changed with respect to Ukraine becoming a NATO member, the one thing Putin really cared about? For some time the Ukraine itself decided to no longer pursue a NATO membership but did NATO reconsider the Bucharest declaration that states Ukraine will become a NATO member if they desire so?
Re:Ukraine accepted to NATO cyber defence centre
by koonsolo on Saturday March 05, 2022 @09:59AM
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So why doesn't Russia attack US then? Europe was getting closer to Russia, you can't deny that. That this might not be in the best interest of US is possible.
But why should Russia start a war with Europe then? Please explain.
EU and Russia could be a very strong power, to offset the other powers in the world. But now Russia decided to fuck both EU and Russia. Nice play idiot(s).
Re:Ukraine accepted to NATO cyber defence centre
by FollowingTheDao on Saturday March 05, 2022 @08:56AM
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I keep saying this, but I am right back at the first Iraq war again, trying to unblind people of the propaganda just like I did back then. Only this time we have nukes.
We are now living in truly post-truth world.
We can condemn the Russia invasion without resorting to what is a complete inversion of the facts.
The US, for unexplained reasons, against the opposition of Germany and France has been stoking this fire since the age of the great neocons: Clinton and Bush Júnior and even after then it never really tried to de-escalate the situation or not try to isolate Russia from Europe. This is widely agreed between scholars and diplomats both from the right and from the left. It is not everyday when Chomsky and Kissinger agreed about something like this.