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Re:Ukraine accepted to NATO cyber defence centre by krzyk on Saturday March 05, 2022 @08:48AM (#30567547)
Ukraine was longer part of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth than Russia.

BTW. Moscow was part of Ukrainian (Kievan Rus'), should they go and start a "special miltary operation" to "free Moscow"?

Re:Ukraine accepted to NATO cyber defence centre by lkrubner on Saturday March 05, 2022 @08:15AM (#30567271)
There is no hostile military alliance against Russia. There is no alliance in the world that has sought a military conflict with Russia.
Re:Ukraine accepted to NATO cyber defence centre by inawarminister on Saturday March 05, 2022 @08:18AM (#30567299)
Huh? There were Napoleon's Grande Armee composed of allied/subjected Germans, Italians, Spanish, and assorted nationalities invading Moscow in 1812. The Iron Pact was also an alliance. And NATO was founded to compete with the Warsaw Pact, it's their raison d'etre.
Re:Ukraine accepted to NATO cyber defence centre by VictorPath on Saturday March 05, 2022 @08:28AM (#30567380)
Also in 1918 the US, UK, France, Italy, Czechoslovakia, Estonia, Romania etc. invaded Russia.
Re:Ukraine accepted to NATO cyber defence centre by skeletal88 on Saturday March 05, 2022 @08:22AM (#30567325)
This has been a lie propagated by Putin's apologists for decades already, this should stop.

NATO exists to deal with the problems Russia is creating.

We in Estonia wouldn't need NATO if Russia wasn't such a pain in the ass all the time, attacking it's neighbours, bullying with random stuff.

For example - they randomly start "repairs" of a railway line on their border that.. maybe haven't finished after a decade, to mess with our logistics sector.

They suddenly want to "inspect" (and stop imports from) all meat producers here that exported to Russia after our government made some decision they didn't like.

If Russia was a nice and friendly neighbour, then we could be friends and have good trade relationships etc. Instead they have been bullying it's neighbours for decades and complained that the dissolution of the Soviet Union was a disaster that needs to be fixed and so on.

And now you tell us that we should not be in NATO?

Re:Ukraine accepted to NATO cyber defence centre by throwaway2037 on Saturday March 05, 2022 @10:05AM (#30568158)
You wrote: <<They suddenly want to "inspect" (and stop imports from) all meat producers here that exported to Russia after our government made some decision they didn't like.>>

Sorry about that. I didn't know about it. I see similar behaviour from China. If they see a political decision that they do not like, they suddenly increase import inspections or deny imports for arbitrary reasons. It feels like they are cheating WTO rules.

Re:Ukraine accepted to NATO cyber defence centre by SyzygistSix on Saturday March 05, 2022 @08:49AM (#30567557)
The East moved to NATO, not the other way around. And they moved to NATO for good reasons, as we have seen continually in the 21st century.
Re:Ukraine accepted to NATO cyber defence centre by mciancia on Saturday March 05, 2022 @09:02AM (#30567674)
So you say NATO existance created russia? ;)