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Re:Ask HN: Do Russians read the open Internet? by justsomehnguy on Saturday March 05, 2022 @06:10AM (#30566409)
> If my country would do propaganda, I would barely notice it

> Reddit

Thanks for the laugh. The whole Reddit is now in "Evil Russkis" mode, you can't voice the reason and common sense for absolutely anything.

HN is just less known, but the same happens here too.

Yes, you wouldn't notice the propaganda, because there would be only one side you hear.

> Can they access the whole internet

Well, Twitter and Facebook are now banned.

> Can the majority read English

No. [0] Translators exists but that doesn't answer if they want to read anything in a foreign language. Do you often read articles in the language you don't understand?

> have an overview of international news about the current situation

They have access to information but that doesn't imply they know, want to know or what they are on the same footing with you even if they know.

> Or would it help to put some infos up?

And what 'infos' you want to put up?

[0] https://www.rbth.com/news/2015/12/03/percentage-of-rusians-w... (2015)

> About a third of Russians (30 percent) speak English to one degree or another: 20 percent can read and translate using a dictionary, 7 percent are familiar with colloquial language, and 3 percent are fluent speakers, according to Romir research holding.

Re:Ask HN: Do Russians read the open Internet? by CRConrad on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @09:56AM (#30685312)
> The whole Reddit is now in "Evil Russkis" mode, you can't voice the reason and common sense for absolutely anything.

Hmm... Putler's trolls have been fairly easy to spot, among other things because, you know, Russian grammar apparently have no articles. (Perhaps all the Slavic languages lack them; I think I've seen the same thing from Poles and Czechs and whatnot.)

The somewhat more sophisticated among them have presumably picked up on this, and are making sure to put some in where they belong... Except sometimes they probably over-compensate, and put articles in where they don't actually belong in idiomatic English.

> > About a third of Russians (30 percent) speak English to one degree or another: 20 percent can read and translate using a dictionary, 7 percent are familiar with colloquial language, and 3 percent are fluent speakers, according to Romir research holding.

Depends how you define "fluent", I suppose.

> you can't voice the reason and common sense

Hmm...?

Re:Ask HN: Do Russians read the open Internet? by TekMol on Saturday March 05, 2022 @06:20AM (#30566469)

    The whole Reddit is now in "Evil Russkis" mode, you can't
    voice the reason and common sense for absolutely anything.
Can you give an example for some background info that cannot be linked to on Reddit? Some link to an interesting article written in English? We could give it a try then. Submit it to Reddit and see what happens.
Re:Ask HN: Do Russians read the open Internet? by samvega_ on Saturday March 05, 2022 @06:41AM (#30566620)
Try and go to a Russia-aligned (or at least not Ukraine-aligned) subreddit, copy a defense of Russias actions, or a condemnation of the Ukraine government, and see how it fares on big subreddits, like r/news or r/europe. You'll almost certainly get banned, esp. if you link to media articles that support your argument. Even if your entire argument is factual and supported by western media articles.

Moreover, it's not a well-hidden secret that Reddit is a very popular target for information warfare on behalf of western intelligence. Information warfare and media operations with the intent of controlling the narrative is extremely widespread. It's not surprising that Russian media are blacked out and labeled misinformation. Closing ones ear to the opposing viewpoint had already become a prime virtue, and isolating out dissenting opinions is an important part of this kind of information warfare. Western news media is absolutely steeped in pro-Ukraine propaganda, obviously much more that even Russian media is with pro-Russia propaganda. It's a case of fish not knowing they're in water. It's insane to me to see the extreme extent of demonisation of Russia, and even ordinary russians on reddit. You won't see this universal kind of demonisation in Russian media. Controlling the narrative is a powerful thing.

Re:Ask HN: Do Russians read the open Internet? by justsomehnguy on Saturday March 05, 2022 @07:14AM (#30566837)
Just ask how come they know it was Russain saboteurs. [0]

> "we were later told by the Ukrainians that we were being ambushed by a saboteur Russian reconnaissance squad"

This is not.. very credible.

Just exactly how they said when "Russian tank drove over a car"... when there were no Russian troops in Kiev. [1,2]

Or you can ask why Ukranian army decided to fight from the nuclear plant buildings (Zaporozhye NP) fully knowing they would be fired in the response.

Or you can ask how come the "Russian cruise missile" came from west side [3] (notice the sun position and the local time, ~08:00) when... there were no Russain troops there at that time. Check the map in the link [4]. Check another angle [5].

[0] https://old.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t6tk3i/news_team_a...

[1] https://observers.france24.com/en/europe/20220301-video-debu...

[2] https://duckduckgo.com/?q=site%3Areddit.com+These+videos+do+...

[3] https://old.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/t1qxse/alleg...

[4] https://old.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/t1qxse/alleg...

[5] https://old.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/t1qpsw/anoth...

Re:Ask HN: Do Russians read the open Internet? by yuppie_scum on Saturday March 05, 2022 @07:54AM (#30567130)
I am notice a trend of pro-Russian posters on here using this format of citations..
Re:Ask HN: Do Russians read the open Internet? by justsomehnguy on Saturday March 05, 2022 @08:04AM (#30567188)
I am notice (sic) a trend of anything not pro-Ukrainian everywhere immediately labeled as pro-Russian.

QED