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Re:Researchers can steal data during homomorphic encryption by CoastalCoder on Friday March 04, 2022 @04:47PM (#30561049)
When talking about encryption techniques, I think we usually assume that the machine performing the encryption isn't compromised. I.e., keeping a machine uncompromised is a separate area of study / endeavor.

What NC State achieved is cool, but it seems a bit like saying "Homomorphic encryption is broken when you can blackmail the sysadmin."

Re:Researchers can steal data during homomorphic encryption by olliej on Friday March 04, 2022 @06:19PM (#30561951)
That’s part of the rationale for homomorphic encryption, even if the device performing the operations is completely compromised it never has access to the unencrypted data, so given a theoretical perfect HE system your data would still be safe.

I’m off to read this paper S I don’t understand how they are using a side channel to extract information that the operating device theoretically shouldn’t have. If there’s a measurable power usage difference over the operations that implies that the encrypted bits do leak information about what is encrypted.

Re:Researchers can steal data during homomorphic encryption by joshuamorton on Friday March 04, 2022 @06:30PM (#30562033)
In a homomorphic scheme, you have a machine A (trusted), which encrypts some data and sends it to machine B (untrusted) and B then does operations on the data and returns the results to A, which decrypts.

This attack is on machine A, not machine B. The "leak" happens as the data is being encrypted. They're sidechanneling a machine that has the plaintext on it.

Re:Researchers can steal data during homomorphic encryption by olliej on Friday March 04, 2022 @07:53PM (#30562726)
Ah, I was super confused (as I said I hadn’t yet read the paper, I was hoping for TLDR at the time)