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Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by hungryforcodes on Friday March 04, 2022 @01:39AM (#30551421)
Nvida should be able to meet market demand. You just don't like crypto maybe. If Tesla was out of Models 3s you would blame...? Or correctly assess that Tesla should ramp up production.
Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by csande17 on Friday March 04, 2022 @01:51AM (#30551480)
If con artists convinced speculative investors to spend millions of dollars on Tesla Model 3s, light them on fire, and dump them into the ocean, I would not blame Tesla for the reduced availability of Model 3s.
Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by eru on Friday March 04, 2022 @03:13AM (#30552011)
Tesla still got paid.
Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by paulmd on Friday March 04, 2022 @12:34PM (#30557731)
that's irrelevant to the point about demand
Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by hungryforcodes on Saturday March 05, 2022 @01:01PM (#30570009)
But thats not what he or she was responding to.
Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by TheCowboy on Friday March 04, 2022 @01:48AM (#30551463)
You realize it's not simple to just build the chip production facilities to facilitate this? It requires major capital investment and planning.

Looks like you also missed that the chip shortage is affecting automobiles. Many articles exist that can explain better than I can about why this isn't a quickly resolved issue.

Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by leereeves on Friday March 04, 2022 @02:00AM (#30551538)
It's not a supply issue.

By design, proof of work requires even more resources as more resources are spent on it. One might say that it expands to consume all available supply.

Because of that, no matter how many cards Nvidia makes, crypto miners will want them all, as long as there is money to be made in crypto.

Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by vl on Friday March 04, 2022 @03:05AM (#30551952)
Not true at all. If enough hardware is available, pool only expands until reward covers electricity cost plus small margin. I.e. bitcoin mining electricity-cost bound for the long time now.
Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by eru on Friday March 04, 2022 @03:14AM (#30552016)
Electricity costs plus cost of capital (etc).
Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by paulmd on Friday March 04, 2022 @12:36PM (#30557760)
in practice that's not even true because some miners are willing to run negative margins because they extract value elsewhere in the process

(the most prominent example is stolen electricity, but also for many miners it's a form of cash laundering. You always get less money out than you put in, but it's clean cash. In China's case they can't get money past capital controls, but you can mine at a loss and sell the bitcoins in a jurisdiction of your choice, that's worth something to them. Also, many miners are front-running exchange trades or extracting other forms of economic value.)

Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by eru on Saturday March 05, 2022 @12:18AM (#30564533)
Interesting. How does running a mining operation help you front-run exchange trades?
Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by paulmd on Monday March 07, 2022 @12:32PM (#30590723)
standard front-running stuff. you can see the transactions that are in the mempool, you can either submit your own higher-fee transaction (likely to be included before theirs) or if you're a miner you can try to mine blocks with your transaction included and theirs specifically excluded so that yours goes first.

that essentially tells you that the price is about to go up or down, so you can make money on the movement.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/front-running-flash-bots-and-...

https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/glossary/miner-extracta...

Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by eru on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @12:44AM (#30611293)
Thanks.

Most of what you suggest doesn't benefit from having significant mining capacity yourself. (Though one thing does.)

Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by ehnto on Friday March 04, 2022 @02:12AM (#30551634)
There are limits to manufacturing capacity, especially such advanced manufacturing.

I feel like if Nvidia could, they would have scaled up. Why wouldn't they want to meet demand?

Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by cbozeman on Friday March 04, 2022 @04:08AM (#30552359)
Uh, because you can inflate MSRP into the stratosphere and blame it on crypto miners?

Cryptocurrencies give NVIDIA the perfect bullshit excuse that people won't ponder too hard over, because the story of modern media is simplistic... every story must have a "good guy" and a "bad guy". It has to be dumbed down for all the idiotic plebs like us.

Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by Mindwipe on Friday March 04, 2022 @04:37AM (#30552534)
> Uh, because you can inflate MSRP into the stratosphere and blame it on crypto miners?

Cards are still selling for significantly more than MSRP, so if this was the plan they're doing a terrible job of it.

Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by HideousKojima on Friday March 04, 2022 @01:51AM (#30551479)
Nvidia doesn't make their own silicon, they go through TSMC's foundries, which means they're competing for a finite amount of production slots.
Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by beebeepka on Friday March 04, 2022 @01:58AM (#30551525)
I thought their gaming line of 3000 chips is being produced at Samsung
Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by Ekaros on Friday March 04, 2022 @02:35AM (#30551752)
Doesn't really matter. 3000 chips are on the cutting edge node and thus competiting with everything else that also wants to make chips on it.

It really is multi-modal market. And demand for that node, is different from automotive woes...