Re:How the weak can win – A primer on protracted war
by denton-scratch on Friday March 04, 2022 @07:52AM
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> Now holding the east part, that seems reasonably easy, and to me it's clearly the end goal
Judging from what Putin has actually said, the end-goal is much more expansive than that. I believed that a couple of weeks ago; but recent comments to the effect that Ukraine is a bogus state have changed my mind.
Re:How the weak can win – A primer on protracted war
by riffraff on Friday March 04, 2022 @10:37AM
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he said that, but I would rather believe that is a negotiation tactic than an actual aim.
Re:How the weak can win – A primer on protracted war
by denton-scratch on Saturday March 05, 2022 @01:10PM
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Recognising chunks of Ukraine as "independent republics" and then moving troops in isn't a negotiating tactic. Encircling the capital isn't a negotiating tactic.
Re:How the weak can win – A primer on protracted war
by smt88 on Friday March 04, 2022 @03:19AM
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Macron said yesterday that Putin's end goal is to conquer all of Ukraine, not just the east.
Re:How the weak can win – A primer on protracted war
by methyl on Friday March 04, 2022 @04:59AM
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That’s what Putin said, so you can just disregard that.
Re:How the weak can win – A primer on protracted war
by smt88 on Friday March 04, 2022 @08:08AM
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What motive would Putin have to tell Macron that he is more greedy than he actually is?
We know he hates to look weak, so if he "settles" for eastern Ukraine after saying that, he's going to look weak.
Ukraine is 20 times larger. It is impossible for the Russian forces to hold by force, the population should agree to it or a puppet regime ia installed that is accepted by the population.
Now holding the east part, that seems reasonably easy, and to me it's clearly the end goal, the rest is just putting yourself inal a strong negotiating stance.