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A comment on ICANN's rejection of Ukraine's request to sever Russia from the internet [pdf]. Parent comment

Re:ICANN's rejection of Ukraine's request to sever Russia fr... by arcticbull on Thursday March 03, 2022 @09:16PM (#30549804)
Certainly, I didn't claim to have anything conclusive. I think it would be interesting to see some research and data. It's pretty much established that the Russians have been seeking to sow discord within Western democracies for years.

Or it could be the collapse of western democracy from the inside. After all, the alternative is a bunch of people genuinely believe for 3 weeks that Trudeau was Hitler because he waited 3 weeks, asked people nicely to stop unlawfully occupying the capital and stopping international commerce, then had the police move in and as peacefully and quietly as humanly possible, removed them. Last I checked, this is not the behavior our mustachioed friend was known for. So that would leave politics in a sad state indeed.

Your so-called take-down isn't the victory you think it is haha. Either I'm right, and we lost recently, you're right, and we lost a long time ago.

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Re:ICANN's rejection of Ukraine's request to sever Russia fr... by mardifoufs on Thursday March 03, 2022 @11:20PM (#30550662)
Invoking the modern equivalent (and direct descendant) of war measure laws over a protest is totally unprecedented in the recent history of the western world . Maybe the comparison to hitler were extreme but that's because the laws invoked were also extreme ;). Whether you agree with the government or not I think it's reasonable/normal that you'd see a very strong opposition to Trudeau without any foreign interference.

Sadly I think I agree with the last part of your comment. It's actually why I really dislike the "russian bots are everywhere" narrative, because it distracts or obscures from the real problems we actually have. I think it's a cop out to blame foreign interference for very real tensions and disagreements we have in our society. My point wasn't to attempt a take down or to win an argument, it was mostly to drive home the point that it's all maybe deeper than just russian trolls after all ;)

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Re:ICANN's rejection of Ukraine's request to sever Russia fr... by arcticbull on Friday March 04, 2022 @02:04AM (#30551571)
It is also unprecedented to occupy the capital and block international trade for three weeks, while making demands that couldn't be met (such as asking the federal government to override provincial restrictions). Over conspiracy theories about dead baby tissue and "graphene oxide" in vaccines. 2/3 of Canadians agreed with the use of this measure.

The restrictions in place were lawful and in keeping with the charter. Canada is a rule of law jurisdiction and judicial avenues existed for the resolution of these grievances. As did normal protests. I welcome normal protests, and I welcome the truckers to return to Ottawa and picket - without their trucks. Their goal though was to overturn the results of the last election - of a minority government they only have to wait an average of less than a year to see fall on its own.

I didn't vote for Trudeau last time, I won't vote for him next time, and I completely agree with his use.

> My point wasn't to attempt a take down or to win an argument, it was mostly to drive home the point that it's all maybe deeper than just russian trolls after all ;)

It might be, but it could also be normal disagreements that are having a wedge placed in them by foreign adversaries.

Or it could be completely unrelated. I am very open to that.

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