Re:ICANN's rejection of Ukraine's request to sever Russia fr...
by likeclockwork on Thursday March 03, 2022 @04:13PM
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Russia is as morally entitled to invade Ukraine as the US was to invade Afghanistan. It's really that simple. You can say moan about Saddam being bad but where from where does the US derive the moral authority to impose its will onto sovereign nations?
Your framework allows for invasions over fake WMDs and fake Nazis alike. Russia didn't sanction the US over Iraq, in the spirit of peace and cooperation between nuclear states the US could afford them the same courtesy.
If you can justify Iraq you can justify Ukraine. Personally I don't agree with invasions anywhere for any reason not do I believe in the concept of "world police". That's just forcing one people's will upon another and denying them the right to destroy their own tyrants and seize their own destiny.
Re:ICANN's rejection of Ukraine's request to sever Russia fr...
by arcticbull on Thursday March 03, 2022 @09:18PM
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> Russia is as morally entitled to invade Ukraine as the US was to invade Afghanistan.
Absolutely, unequivocally not.
My framework does no such thing.
And that's irrelevant to whether taking him down was a good decision. Either before or after. Once again, I didn't support the war at the time, and I think the casualties are horrifying. However, it's not even close to the same thing.
> And during the 90s, we instituted sanctions that killed half a million Iraqi children. That's 100 children for every single person who died in Halabja.
You don't really weigh moral wars this way. For instance, the Nazis killed 6 million in the concentration camps. However, an estimated total of 70–85 million people perished in World War 2, or about 3% of the 1940 world population. However, nobody frames World War 2 as "costing 10 lives for everyone who died in the camps" and therefore a bad idea.