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Re:Moving money internationally by tomhallett on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @10:33PM (#30536827)
When most people say "crypto is useless", that is rarely about BTC being used as a currency, and is more about everything else in crypto (NFTs, web3, smart contracts, decentralized apps, ICOs, etc). The idea of a currency which has value because people give it value makes sense, regardless of how speculative it is.
Re:Moving money internationally by maneesh on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @10:38PM (#30536865)
People have been saying "crypto is useless" for wayyy longer than the time since NFTs were first popularized (which didn't become a mainstream term until 2020/2021).
Re:Moving money internationally by tomhallett on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @10:43PM (#30536895)
sure, but there are many other things in that list i made, right?
Re:Moving money internationally by weird-eye-issue on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @10:54PM (#30536972)
People were saying Bitcoin was useless when it was just Bitcoin and not anything you listed
Re:Moving money internationally by tomhallett on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @11:16PM (#30537119)
Totally - the conversation definitely has shifted in general in Bitcoin's favor since it's launch.

My only point was, whatever comments people are making in the past few years which fit under the umbrella of "For those saying that crypto is useless", it feels like those have been directed at all the other stuff in the eco-system - while "moving their property across borders" is something which was solved by Bitcoin along time ago.

Re:Moving money internationally by hanniabu on Thursday March 03, 2022 @12:10AM (#30537397)
Just total moving of goal posts
Re:Moving money internationally by darawk on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @10:46PM (#30536911)
People pretty regularly say its useless in this sense as well. But even if it were true, as soon as you accept crypto is useful as money, DeFi smart contracts are pretty obviously useful as financial infrastructure on top of it.
Re:Moving money internationally by sgustard on Thursday March 03, 2022 @12:07AM (#30537379)
It's not the feature set people react to, it's the speculative bubble and the hordes of grifters.
Re:Moving money internationally by hanniabu on Thursday March 03, 2022 @12:11AM (#30537404)
Which isn't exclusive to crypto soooo....
Re:Moving money internationally by javert on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @10:40PM (#30536881)
> The idea of a currency which has value because people give it value makes sense

As a BTC proponent, I just want to say, I don't think this is what gives BTC value.

Re:Moving money internationally by tomhallett on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @10:52PM (#30536954)
Sorry, I was being a bit quick when I typed that out. I wasn't trying to define why it has value per-se, I was trying to make the distinction that someone who says "BTC is very speculative, therefore its too risky for me" (ie: a hater) is not the same as "it's useless".