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Re:The decline and fall of Java on the desktop by toolslive on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @03:02PM (#30532213)
A Steve Jobs quote: "We want to bring Java back to the desktop in a really big way. I'm here today to personally tell you we are working hard to make Mac the best Java delivery vehicle on the planet. The biggest thing we are doing is we are going to bundle Java 2 SE into every single copy of Mac OS X the upcoming Macintosh operating system that we ship later on this year."

Apparently, he changed his mind around OSX 10.5 and just removed it.

Re:The decline and fall of Java on the desktop by thought_alarm on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @03:27PM (#30532617)
Apple went all in on Java, but the developers didn't follow.

The unusual syntax of Objective-C was always seen as a hinderance to OpenStep/Cocoa adoption, and Java was seen as the solution to that problem.

But Java wasn't a perfect fit for AppKit development, and once developers wrapped their heads around Objective-C most of them stuck with it rather than deal with Java/Cocoa idiosyncrasies. With few developers, the Java/Cocoa bridge died.

Re:The decline and fall of Java on the desktop by shannah78 on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @03:30PM (#30532657)
I never really understood why, but I can guess. Could have been political/strategic, to try to force developers onto Objective-C. Or his keen attention to detail might have just bristled at some of the performance an UI issues that many of the Java apps had at the time.