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Re:Asian-Americans fight back against school discrimination by TulliusCicero on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @02:28AM (#30524754)
The advantage of race is that it's not easily gamed. Using household income would incentivize families to try and minimize income in the years prior to college admission. Additionally, you'd have to deal with how income relates to cost of living (e.g. 100k in Alabama and coastal California aren't the same).
Re:Asian-Americans fight back against school discrimination by rosndo on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @05:36AM (#30525856)
Race is really easy to game, nobody will actually verify your ethnicity.
Re:Asian-Americans fight back against school discrimination by ffwszgf on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @04:38AM (#30525521)
Race can and is absolutely gamed all the time. Case in point: Senator Elizabeth Warren.

Just because it can be gamed doesn’t mean it’s not a good metric

Re:Asian-Americans fight back against school discrimination by TulliusCicero on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @04:50AM (#30525588)
Yes, but it’s harder to game. Income is vastly more fluid than racial identity, especially since in this situation it’s more advantageous for your income to go down.
Re:Asian-Americans fight back against school discrimination by j7ake on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @05:45AM (#30525903)
Income and wealth are better predictors of “privilege” than race though.

So one is using a worse indicator.

Using a mix of income and wealth over several years to me is an appropriate indicator and cannot be easily gamed.

The fact that Will Smiths kids get a better chance to get into college than a similar applicant from a first generation immigrant family from Vietnam shows how broken race as an indicator can be.

Re:Asian-Americans fight back against school discrimination by TulliusCicero on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @11:36AM (#30529238)
That’s probably fair, though even rich black people have to deal with discrimination that rich white people don’t.
Re:Asian-Americans fight back against school discrimination by rosndo on Thursday March 03, 2022 @03:20AM (#30538526)
How is income vastly more fluid than a “racial identity” checkbox on a form? At least it’s sort of possible to verify.

It’s easy to lie and claim to be black, nobody will perform tests on you to verify this. You can be the whitest person in the world and get away with this (so many do).

Re:Asian-Americans fight back against school discrimination by hknapp on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @06:53AM (#30526304)
A lot of financial aid is income based. Is there evidence of families doing this currently?
Re:Asian-Americans fight back against school discrimination by MontyCarloHall on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @07:43AM (#30526699)
Anecdotal, but absolutely. I knew several people in undergrad whose parents did things like put assets into trust funds that would have been invisible to the limited means that colleges have at their disposal to audit. One friend specifically told me how his parents transferred ownership of their house to a blind trust they had established under a family member’s name and “rented” it back. This put their total assets well under the total amount to qualify for (a surprising amount of) financial aid. I’ve also heard of parents deferring a portion of their income for the four years their kid was in school, and receiving the deferred income in the years after their kid graduated.

Top schools these days give substantial financial aid to families whose incomes are well into the six figures (and assets into the seven figures), so it makes total sense that families just above the cutoff would use some dirty tricks to qualify.