Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

Re:Tell HN: If You Are in Russia by leereeves on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @08:58AM (#30514168)

> Ukraine was also a non-democratic country, until the people decided otherwise

That's not true. The President of Ukraine who was overthrown in 2014 (Yanukovych) was democratically elected in 2010 in an election that international observers called fair, truly competitive, and an impressive display of democracy.[1]

That President was supported mostly by the people of eastern Ukraine and opposed by the people of western Ukraine.

1: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/feb/08/viktor-yanukov...

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Re:Tell HN: If You Are in Russia by koonsolo on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @09:06AM (#30514273)

True that he was democratically elected. But it's hard to call a government democratic when they shoot and kill protesters.

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Re:Tell HN: If You Are in Russia by leereeves on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @09:08AM (#30514291)

I'd say instead that it shows that being democratic doesn't preclude being corrupt and authoritarian.

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Re:Tell HN: If You Are in Russia by jacquesm on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @12:54PM (#30517408)

Democracy is first and foremost about peaceful transfer of power after elections. Anything on top of that is luxury. The only alternative is a series of civil wars.

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Re:Tell HN: If You Are in Russia by cloverich on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @10:14AM (#30515136)

I like to think its a step wise progression with the ideal being leaders can change without requiring a revolution or war to happen.

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Re:Tell HN: If You Are in Russia by mbg721 on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @09:07AM (#30514286)

Walling themselves off from (edit: potential) protesters at taxpayer expense is still good, though?

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