Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

Re:Tell HN: If You Are in Russia by bigodbiel on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @07:55AM (#30513501)

How was, before this hell, the consensus of the people in Ukraine for a Finland like solution, ceading territory (Crimea), neutrality (non-Nato), but within the EU (won't ask about Minsk agreement, cause I know no one supported it)? I always found this to have been the best option for all sides.

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Re:Tell HN: If You Are in Russia by CRConrad on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @01:06PM (#30517586)

> a Finland like solution, ceading territory

Sure, you can advocate using the Winter War robbery of East Carelia and Vyborg from the independent democratic nation of Finland as a model if you want. Two questions about that, though:

1) How much did that help? Didn't exactly sate the Soviet Union's appetite for acquisition and oppression of satellite states, did it?

2) Advocating an appeasement model seems (at least to me) to imply endorsement not only of the temporary calm it might buy, but also of its moral and ethical justice. Care to expound on how you do that?

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Re:Tell HN: If You Are in Russia by jacquesm on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @08:00AM (#30513549)

Ukraine was effectively already at war with Russia since 2014, it just got paused without real resolution.

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