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Re:Tell HN: If You Are in Russia by pydry on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @06:38AM (#30512904)
If this were about freedom and democracy NATO would be toppling the Saudi Arabian Monarchy not helping it invade Yemen.

If it were about democracy NATO would respect the results of the crimean referendum (if pew research says thats what 90% of crimeans want and it does im inclined to believe them).

We are not the good guys bringing peace, freedom and democracy to the world. We are an empire threatening another empire along its most exposed border at the exact point where it was almost defeated by the Nazis.

Belief that our leaders are the bringers of peace, freedom and democracy is going to end very, very badly. Our leaders want power.

Re:Tell HN: If You Are in Russia by CRConrad on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @04:44PM (#30520438)
> thats what 90% of crimeans want

Sure. For some carefully chosen definition of "Crimeans".

Was that poll held before (which I doubt) or after (like the infamous "referendum") Russia had invaded, transported out hundreds of thousands of Crimean Tartars, and shipped in as many Russian national(ist)s to replace them?

Listen, man: I suppose it's possible that you somehow are neither intentionally peddling Putin's propaganda, nor a dimwitted dupe who has hook-line-and-sinker fallen for it. But as you must have noticed by now, quite a lot of us here think you come off very much as if you belong to at least one of those categories. Maybe you ought to have a good long think about why that is, and whether perhaps it's you who should open your eyes and rethink your values?

Re:Tell HN: If You Are in Russia by chupy on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @03:10PM (#30519327)
Probably if you apply the same polls some folks in Texas they would also want to become independent from the US.
Re:Tell HN: If You Are in Russia by MaulingMonkey on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @08:28AM (#30513827)
The west's intentions are certainly far from pure. But you won't tell me with a straight face that Putin's intentions here are purer - or that he comes in peace, bringing freedom or democracy.