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Re:Tell HN: If You Are in Russia by hugojaba on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @05:35AM (#30512373)
Russia and NATO together doesn't make sense to me. Who would they defend against? What common threats do they have?

NATO is made to promote democratic values, Putin runs a dictatorship, how does that work?

In a world where Russia also sought to promote free democracies and started with itself, then Russia being in NATO would make sense.

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Re:Tell HN: If You Are in Russia by dragonwriter on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @06:01AM (#30512591)
> Russia and NATO together doesn't make sense to me. Who would they defend against?

Central Asian Islamic extremists?

> NATO is made to promote democratic values, Putin runs a dictatorship, how does that work?

Russia wasn't clearly a dictatorship when it was admitted to the Partnership for Peace, or when Putin wanted direct admission to NATO without the usual accession process, though, yeah, it is now.

Someone who was unreasonably optimistic might think NATO membership would have mellowed Putin rather than just letting him jam up the alliances consensus-based processes.

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Re:Tell HN: If You Are in Russia by jacquesm on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @09:11AM (#30514331)
Or, alternatively that once in NATO that he could take over the Baltics without opposition having already stationed troops there as part of the NATO taskforce. There were plenty of really good reasons not to want Russia in NATO at the time.
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Re:Tell HN: If You Are in Russia by ssijak on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @06:23AM (#30512769)
NATO as a "defensive" alliance sure did start a lot of wars in far away countries.
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