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Re:Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events by password321 on Monday February 28, 2022 @07:55AM (#30499303)
It really is eye opening. For years many have made the excuse when it comes to others that its just not worth it because of the potential consequences. I honestly bought it myself. Yet here we are throwing all sorts of punches with a nuclear power. Goes to show you how that was all an excuse.
Re:Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events by enkid on Monday February 28, 2022 @08:03AM (#30499365)
Gaddafi, Saddam, and Assad all had sanctions against them and groups armed against them. Sudan was forced to give up South Sudan. The response to any situation is never going to be identical, it needs to be dictated by what is going on in those specific circumstances, but certainly there's enough evidence of similar actions taken outside of white countries to suggest this is a gross oversimplification.
Re:Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events by emteycz on Monday February 28, 2022 @07:54AM (#30499301)
I'm near the crisis (many Ukrainian refugees are here now). I haven't seen any indications that skin color is the differentiator. Ukrainians are not all crystal white and they're being helped regardless. It's much more about speaking a similar language and sharing a similar culture.
Re:Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events by gostsamo on Monday February 28, 2022 @08:01AM (#30499348)
It doesn't seem so universally. The stories here seem ugly.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-refu...

Re:Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events by emteycz on Monday February 28, 2022 @08:42AM (#30499696)
That's within Ukraine itself and I think the issue here is that Ukrainians are afraid there won't be enough space for their own people. Usually in these situations, foreign nationals are assisted in getting home by their own governments - but nobody might be going to help evacuate Ukrainians.

During COVID lockdowns, I was also denied entry onto a evacuation bus based on my nationality - and I'm as white as you can be. This is nothing unusual - and it's not racist, only nationalist/statist.

Re:Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events by gostsamo on Monday February 28, 2022 @08:47AM (#30499731)
I thought so initially as well, but it is mentioned that the polls are also not so welcoming. Check the stories about other nationalities and the behavior of the board guards as well.
Re:Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events by emteycz on Monday February 28, 2022 @08:48AM (#30499741)
Well I can't deny there are some issues. But I really wouldn't call it generally racist. It's individual excesses - very wrong and must be stopped, but it's not as widespread/as racist as these articles might suggest.
Re:Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events by gostsamo on Monday February 28, 2022 @09:03AM (#30499874)
I'm not trying to give it labels, just to share the stories of those people because they are part of it as well.
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Re:Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events by password321 on Monday February 28, 2022 @08:00AM (#30499340)
Maybe he didn't word it in the best way but the point here is that many feel betrayed. Betrayed because people with simillar backgrounds to them have not recieved anywhere near the same treatment. People from Gaza come to mind.
Re:Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events by libertine on Monday February 28, 2022 @08:08AM (#30499404)
Maybe this is a turning point?

It's the first time in a long time we see the West come together, even during COVID we had drama about hoarding vaccines, and who gets what first.

To be fair, Europe has been taking refugees for quite some time, but we indeed haven't saw this sanctioning anywhere else... but let's face it: this is happening in Europe, a nuclear power is invading an independent european country.

Apparently there are big consequences for such actions. Maybe that's where the line is drawn, since it has to be drawn somewhere.

Re:Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events by Mehjuiy on Monday February 28, 2022 @08:31AM (#30499594)
I mean what happens in Gaza is wtf. But how far is the NATO or Europe allowed to escalate this conflict to an end that it becomes solved?

Alone the issue what trump did showed that there is not that much of alignment.

Re:Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events by severino on Monday February 28, 2022 @07:56AM (#30499317)
Maybe a criticism against the hypocrisy of the western world and its moral superiority?
Re:Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events by marcyb5st on Monday February 28, 2022 @08:17AM (#30499476)
I'd like to point out that, before calling 600M people racists, there are different explanations. "Social Identity Theory" [1] being one of them. We Europeans could simply see Ukraine belonging to the same group (ie another European country) and hence emotional responses about an injustice are enhanced. This leads to more support for a member of said group compared to the same thing happening to someone belonging to a larger group (ie humanity as a whole). This doesn't have to be about racism and it's a fallacy almost all humans have.

[1] https://www.simplypsychology.org/social-identity-theory.html....

Re:Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events by lamp987 on Monday February 28, 2022 @08:24AM (#30499531)
in-group preference, aka implicit racial bias, is still racism.
Re:Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events by orwin on Monday February 28, 2022 @11:24AM (#30501631)
I odn't think it is racial. I'm a Palestine supporter too, i housed Kazakh refugees recently, my mother housed Georgians, and had my very catholic, conservative family do the same in the 2000s. They aren't caucasians, and are ethnically close to Syrian (turkomongols i guess?). But they are Christians, and Coptics do have a really good reputation in France (or at least in my part of France). It has everything to do with how you dress, your accent, and how the media portrayed you in the last 10 years.
Re:Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events by marcyb5st on Monday February 28, 2022 @12:50PM (#30502709)
Maybe we have different definitions of racism. In my view one is racist when considers a particular ethnicity superior to another.
Re:Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events by bigbillheck on Monday February 28, 2022 @08:36AM (#30499635)
Sounds like racism to me.
Re:Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events by Mehjuiy on Monday February 28, 2022 @08:00AM (#30499343)
In which sense?

I'm not remembering a nuclear power taking over another democratic country in Europe for a long time.

Or do you mean Asia? Or other regions of the world?

Is it so hypocritic to say no and stand up to a bully who threatens the world with nukes?

'who needs a world without Russia in it's

Re:Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events by severino on Monday February 28, 2022 @08:02AM (#30499356)
Oh, I now understand. Victims only matter if they belong to a "democratic" country, or if they live in a place called Europe.
Re:Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events by Mehjuiy on Monday February 28, 2022 @11:17AM (#30501554)
Don't interpretatr things into it which I didn't say.

There is a diplomatic/global politics layer which you ignore.

Re:Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events by lamp987 on Monday February 28, 2022 @08:22AM (#30499510)
it is pretty racist man

europeans arent more "important" than other people