BP quits Russia in up to $25B hit after Ukraine invasion

Re:BP quits Russia in up to $25B hit after Ukraine invasion by yonaguska on Sunday February 27, 2022 @06:34PM (#30494022)

Ukraine has no access to the air at this point anyways. I don't see this as plausible. No airports are secured, and Russia dominates the airspace right now. Even if NATO sends planes, how will they be transported there? And how will they establish a base of operations?

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Re:BP quits Russia in up to $25B hit after Ukraine invasion by scottLobster on Sunday February 27, 2022 @07:33PM (#30494578)

Depending on the model of Mig, they could operate from a hastily constructed dirt air strip. US-made fighters not so much. Not sure about Gripens.

I can't speak to the state of Russian air superiority at the moment, it could be that there are gaps/The Ukrainian air force hasn't been destroyed yet.

But even if as an idea it doesn't work out, the fact that the "peace project" organization, whose members visibly wept over the UK leaving, is coordinating the delivery of military hardware to a non-member for use in an active conflict should speak volumes about the level of support Ukraine is getting.

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Re:BP quits Russia in up to $25B hit after Ukraine invasion by jonititan on Sunday February 27, 2022 @11:52PM (#30496544)

Gripens are designed to be able to operate from roads and Sweden often does practice operations doing just that.

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Re:BP quits Russia in up to $25B hit after Ukraine invasion by GauntletWizard on Sunday February 27, 2022 @07:14PM (#30494381)

My guess is they'll initially sortie from Romania, maintaining IFF silence for plausible deniability, while a coordinated strike with man-and-vehicle portable SAMs retakes enough airspace in the western part of the country to support further operations.

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Re:BP quits Russia in up to $25B hit after Ukraine invasion by logifail on Monday February 28, 2022 @03:17AM (#30497587)

> plausible deniability

You're proposing military aircraft owned by an EU member state should launch from their airfields in EU, sneak over the border and land in Ukraine, refuel and (re-)arm - and perhaps get a quick paint job too and have the aviation equivalent of their serial numbers filed off - then start attacking Russian forces in Ukraine, and our plan would be basically to hope that the enemy with apparently complete air superiority plus satellite capability might not notice?

I'm firmly anti-war; that plan sounds like a great way to drag the EU and/or NATO straight into this one.

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Re:BP quits Russia in up to $25B hit after Ukraine invasion by GekkePrutser on Monday February 28, 2022 @03:47AM (#30497768)

On the other hand, we're already supplying Ukraine with many types of weapons. Airplanes are just one more type.

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Re:BP quits Russia in up to $25B hit after Ukraine invasion by petre on Monday February 28, 2022 @03:40AM (#30497726)

That would definitely drag NATO into the war, so no.

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Re:BP quits Russia in up to $25B hit after Ukraine invasion by yrgulation on Sunday February 27, 2022 @08:04PM (#30494847)

That explains a lot.

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